Floor plan check for new single-family house with basement

  • Erstellt am 2024-11-14 01:51:42

ypg

2024-11-14 11:23:55
  • #1

Oh, a new word. We Northerners don’t know that one.



That adds even more: It may be that you’re allowed to go down to 2.75 with the setbacks here, but you are taking the liberty on the property to add an adequate shed or garage of 3 meters width next to the house. The window planning also doesn’t allow for something like that. So you’d have to put a carport or parking space and a shed for bicycles in front of the house.

For that, you then have to keep the lane a bit with the car at 2.75 including fence/privacy screen/planting. Who likes that? It can be planned better, e.g. keep the 3 meters and bring the carport closer to the entrance. Also, elaborately built window façades get blocked. Windows in the basement with casemates also get obstructed.

About the design, I hardly want to say anything. Yes, it is a nice house that fits Hamburg. But it does not fit in a budget under one million.
I would criticize a pantry that houses a chimney; then there is no cooling anymore.
The location of the pantry contradicts Feng Shui principles. Okay, not everyone has that philosophy in mind. But if this house with the 1930 construction year was bought as-is, this byproduct would be torn down.

When reading your concerns (too small, too narrow, bedroom relatively small, “we’d like it a bit roomier,” bathroom too), I wonder if you can actually grasp the proportions and rooms by their dimensions as they are.

The entrance is not covered. You could extend the upper floor over the outer walls to the north. That saves costs and creates a covered area and space to possibly accommodate the office upstairs.

It is your first draft, and everything is still possible.
I would first talk about the budget, question the basement as it is (too many storage rooms and a nice-to-have home theater), then plan the house with a regulated distance of at least 3 meters on the side. Plan window positions for carport/shed.
Cut back the kitchen, living and dining can also be reduced. As already mentioned: 700,000€ is set for a square-practical-good house of 200 sqm and some frills including 15 sqm storage and technical area. This clearly goes over that without added value.
 

11ant

2024-11-14 13:43:40
  • #2
To me, it feels like a draft that started off in third gear (obviously nowadays even architects skip the preliminary design), and probably by an architect who is a " warns". Roughly, I estimate 1.2 million with an existing flat, slab-like plot, and then for me, the next big question marks arise: according to the drawings, the terrain is flawlessly level, which, following the 11th basement rule, already calls the basement so much into question, which is obviously an empty space basement; on the other hand, there is a study with windows without light shafts, which would require it to be above ground there. I share the doubts about the non-full-storey (unless Hamburg counts as one of the three-quarter federal states). As always, several fantasy dimensions stood out to me, which are known to create botch pockets, and are probably the trademark of the architect—drilling slots with masonry posts, which I would have first had presented as detail drawings in your place. And of course, the extremely wide-mouth lift-and-slide front, which will compete in price with its lintel. By the way, as a former window fitter, I would have designed that as three-part rather than four-part, but nowadays not even that. Lift-and-slide is yesterday’s tomorrow, though I wouldn't bet on it coming back as retro fashion. Here, I would repeat the living room door system in parallel, framed by masonry posts, with fixed elements on both sides. And as a funny detail, the warm pantry by the chimney stack—makes me smile. Is that an Easter egg in a mistake-finding picture? – The laundry chute is probably intended to be masonry? Much here, if not everything, looks like it's from an architect with a gold-trimmed website, was that a recommendation from the riding or golf club?
 

11ant

2024-11-14 13:50:42
  • #3
P.S.: if I look at it closely, I would probably also turn the staircase around.
 

11ant

2024-11-14 14:04:07
  • #4

P.P.S.: In my opinion, the bathroom is a patchwork leftover space in the floor plan, barely worth any sugarcoating. At this point, I would have decided in a preliminary draft not to even refine this sketch into a design. After all, that is one of the functions of the preliminary draft tool: to crumple up a dead end before it has eaten up time at the drawing board.
 

flymac

2024-11-14 15:41:32
  • #5
Hello everyone.

Many thanks for the input!

Regarding the price limit, I have to say that I somehow misunderstood it in the list, my bad. The €700,000 is what I (roughly) suspected we would pay for the construction of the house. We will do heating and plumbing as "own work," through a company in our family, and we also have the possibility to get the components/parts of the electrical installation as equity. From my point of view and from the experience of our previous house building projects, this lowers the costs. Even if we don’t manage that, the budget is not a bottleneck. We definitely have some leeway.

Regarding the kitchen: Yes, you are right, a reduction definitely makes sense here. No one needs that much kitchen. Nevertheless, the passage width with the island in the middle is at most 90cm, which is too narrow for us. Regarding the size of the rooms: yes, I also agree with you here. "narrow," "small," etc. is of course

Regarding the bathroom: I see it similarly In the current house we solved that better, with similar dimensions, but I find the idea of the hidden toilet appealing.

Regarding the basement: Yes, light wells are planned there. They are not yet shown in the section.

Carport I have roughly drawn in the attached overview. It is not ideal with a max. 2.75m driving width up to the carport, but without making the house narrower (or the plot wider (still to be measured)), I see hardly any option.

No, there is no development plan. Construction stage plan Hamburg Langenhorn. There were no budget specifications, only sizes, rooms, and house type.

Pantry: Completely right, that was the desperate attempt to fulfill my wish for a pantry without interrupting the light axis. But of course it does not fit at all and will definitely be removed. Given the current kitchen size, one probably doesn’t need a pantry anyway :)
 

ypg

2024-11-14 16:16:59
  • #6

Actually, that is clear.
But if that is the case, . .

. . then you save something. “Something,” because the employees of the family business are still paid or the company has to plan the craftsman work logistically and cannot be available for commercial work.

Okeeey, but then there should also be room for €500,000, because equity capital also costs money. My sharp pencil was very kind with €3,500/sqm. €4,000 is more realistic.

At least you are sensitized.

I would still and definitely plan the distances to the neighbors so that parking space can be created there.
At the moment, it looks as if the light wells from the basement side are planned on the one hand for lighting, on the other hand for driving over. Also, I do not know if you plan a nice house with a sightline only to then look at your car or bicycle stuff. And a walkway from the parking space/car door to the front door would also have to be planned in terms of space, otherwise the cloakroom becomes unnecessary and you walk around the back.
For a reset in the kitchen, I recommend not placing the tall cabinets on the left side of the plan, but on the outer wall (right side of the plan). With a shortening, you then have an L-shaped kitchen with a long island that then works.
And yes, a break in the south front/window also does the house good. The window makes the house wide-mouthed and – what you definitely don’t want – clunky.
In principle, it also has to be mentioned that it is a long hallway from the kitchen to the terrace. This is usually undesired and very impractical when using the terrace.
 

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