Recommendation digital heating thermostat

  • Erstellt am 2020-12-27 21:29:07

motorradsilke

2020-12-29 22:54:19
  • #1

I read that here in the forum. There is a topic about electricity consumption. In my opinion, those are already new buildings. Certainly larger houses, but not three times as big.

And electricity is not getting more expensive?
 

motorradsilke

2020-12-29 23:07:22
  • #2

So far, I can only repeat what I read here in the forum. And people write about an efficiency of 3,…, 4 is hardly achieved.
And I never read about a consumption of 1000 kWh, nor 1500 kWh (when you extrapolate the sqm). Especially since hot water and cooking are added, and that is independent of the sqm figure.
But I don't want to argue about it either, I have no experience. I will have to deal with it extensively in the next few days because an offer we have includes KFW 55 if we take a heat pump instead of gas. It’s just this feeling, gas is familiar to me, so I know what I have and what it costs. With electricity, I don’t know.
 

nordanney

2020-12-29 23:15:05
  • #3
I only say CO2 tax. Please tell me what you know about gas that you do not know about electricity (which you may also generate and store yourself). You also do not read here about 80 m² houses, but about 180, 200, or 240 m². I can tell you from my own experience that you can heat 300 m² with a properly designed geothermal heat pump including hot water at 22° for about 50 € per month.
 

motorradsilke

2020-12-29 23:36:32
  • #4
I know about gas that I currently pay about €600 for my poorly insulated 80 sqm house with bad windows. That can't be more for 110 sqm according to the new standard with underfloor heating. I don't know about electricity. Generating and storing it myself is probably inefficient for us since the roof will be oriented east-west. I cannot predict the price development for either; I only know that the electricity price has risen more in recent years than the gas price. And that was the catch I suspected in your prices: you have a geothermal heat pump. How much more does that cost for purchase and installation than a gas heating system or an air heat pump? And do you also need a central ventilation system with heat recovery? Both will probably exceed our budget; we are already over it anyway. Can you also give me realistic values for an air heat pump for 110 sqm and hot water for 2 people?
 

nordanney

2020-12-29 23:57:32
  • #5
For 2020, with 186 systems, an average annual performance factor of 3.73 (partly including screed heating), in 2019 with 193 systems, an annual performance factor of 3.6. Mostly including hot water. Have also seen annual performance factors of almost five. Then you can calculate an average of 1,700 kWh electricity for a demand of 5-8,000 kWh (this depends on the house and your user behavior). Well designed and not immediately 24 degrees in all rooms maybe 1,250 kWh, poorly implemented and corresponding user behavior 2,500 kWh. So between €375 and €750 per year.
 

motorradsilke

2020-12-30 00:07:43
  • #6
Thank you for the values, I will think about it again. Do you deal with this professionally?
 

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