Property in good condition financable?

  • Erstellt am 2024-02-03 14:23:42

ypg

2024-02-03 19:21:18
  • #1

If you have nothing, that is, nothing, 0€, then yes.
Move in, feel comfortable.. the rest will also fit.

do you have an ID from the exposé, please? Maybe we could take a look :)
 

Rexona96

2024-02-03 19:37:47
  • #2
First of all, thank you very much for the numerous responses in such a short time. I have dealt intensively with the topic and must admit that the property is indeed more expensive (currently 500,000 euros). Nevertheless, I am optimistic that the price could be reduced by about 10%, resulting in an amount of 450,000 euros. My interest in moving in is not only based on the already existing kitchen but also on the overall impression I have gained. As already mentioned, the electricity costs would be completely eliminated, so these would not be included in the additional costs. In addition, the gas boiler was replaced 2 years ago and the windows are triple-glazed, etc. There are not many people who renovate a property in the six-figure range completely within a year and then sell it cheaply. I have theoretically calculated the remaining additional costs and come to about 300-350 euros per month. I am aware that the total costs will probably go towards 2,700-2,800 euros warm. We are both still considering, but I am quite optimistic, as I finally work 100% from home office and the house offers me more than other things. On Monday I have an appointment at the house bank, the Commerzbank, and then at Interhyp. I am curious to see what will come of it. The interest rate varies between 3.7% and 4.2%, depending on the repayment rate.
 

ypg

2024-02-03 22:45:23
  • #3

But only in summer.

Well, that should raise warnings. There may be defects that are not obvious.
 

jens.knoedel

2024-02-04 00:44:28
  • #4
Maybe the property was worth T€ 300 before the renovation. If T€ 100 were then invested, you are being properly taken for a ride. And no, even today no one is giving anything away, unless it is a genuine distress sale (one in a thousand). How large is the storage of the photovoltaic system? I also produce 10,000 kWh of electricity per year. I consume slightly over 10,000 kWh of electricity. Still, I buy almost 8,000 kWh of electricity. Total electricity consumption including e-car (in case someone stumbles over the fact that I mentioned a completely different electricity consumption in the other thread – that was only for regular household electricity.) What is the planned repayment rate in each case? I think we would set it at 3% – if we would even make an offer at all. With a purchase price of T€ 450, the lending value is T€ 400. You need T€ 500, so that is a 125% loan-to-value ratio. I estimate the rate at around €3,000, assuming the bank calculates reasonably and processes the very high risk accordingly. Do you really mean that seriously? T€ 50 as a consumer loan with 6% interest and 72 (maybe even 96) months term. That would be almost €1,000 installment per month. Every household budget calculation at a bank will ruin you. That would be a real deal-breaker for us if you had such a consumer loan in addition to the construction financing. Another major negative point – wanting full financing but having additional debts. I would be interested to know how efficiency class A was achieved. An unrenovated house from 1997 is energetically identical to a new building in efficiency class KfW 55? How does that work? So, outside of a faked certificate (e.g. taking the total area of the house including unheated basement/attic and distributing the energy consumption over this area). A bank must deduct these things from the purchase price to determine the value of the house. When done properly – but normally with such a small financing this does not matter because the lending value is determined automatically and no appraiser is involved.
 

SoL

2024-02-04 01:26:15
  • #5


Very good point, which also didn't let me rest. A house from 1997 obviously does not have an energy efficiency class A if nothing was done except replacing the heating system (plus solar) and triple-glazed windows. But: the heating system probably has efficiency class A as a new condensing boiler. I suspect there was a sticker with a big nice A on it and the seller told the completely inexperienced young potential buyers: "Yes, that's something really fine, efficiency class A!"



Correct in content, but I doubt the lending value of €400,000. Of the €100,000 that went into the property, €50,000 went into the garden (a.k.a. hardly valuable). Here, any loan-to-value ratio is broken...
 

SoL

2024-02-04 01:32:14
  • #6
Addendum: : Even if a bank were to give you a loan - it really looks like your inexperience is being exploited here. Please inform yourselves about the topic of buying a house and if, against all warnings, you decide to buy the house, please have an inspector go through it BEFORE THE PURCHASE. You seem to have no idea about the subject...
 

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