Planning house construction and considering the desire for children

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exactly that was what I meant a few pages ago by somewhat arrogant.
First get the sheep safely into the pen, build a house on the green meadow, then take a nice world trip, you’ve earned it, then the children can come.
It can work, but it doesn’t have to.

What many here probably overlook a bit is that to have children you neither need a house nor a secure job nor loads of money.
Practice proves this, doesn’t it, or have you never seen tenants or even job seekers with children?

Now of course comes the argument: yes, but then the children will never have a good life.
That may be true in some cases, but basically raising children primarily requires time, patience, intelligence and of course a lot of love.
It may sound romantic, but in the end it is like that. Of course, there are things the child then cannot have. Then there’s a 15-year-old Puky bike instead of the new, ultra-light speedster. Clothes are then also sometimes secondhand.
All this may not make raising children easier, but it does not make it impossible.

The only crucial question for a desire to have children should be whether both really want it and are also willing to adjust their lives at least for some years for it. If this question can be answered with yes, all other things are manageable.

To return to the topic of house planning with/without children: We bought our house childless but with the desire to have children from a childless couple. The room layout partly corresponds to the needs of a childless, hard-working couple. Meanwhile, we have children and manage fine with that. You must not take it too seriously, otherwise you will just drive yourself crazy and not find any solution at all among all the supposed requirements...

Or if the child later becomes such a total failure in terms of social skills like HilfeHilfe!

Rarely have I read something so inhumane.

listen! I can also agree with anyone having their first children after 40!!!!

we have 2 healthy children, the second child came at 35 and we did a screening. After that, we had 4 months of horror because we didn’t know what was wrong (topic Down syndrome). The doctor was simply a doctor and not a "mimimi it will be fine everything’s great etc." He explained the risks in a blunt manner and so on.

In the end, everything turned out for the better.

So once again for all the do-gooders: Whoever thinks nature created humanity to have their first children after 40 because we have such great progress should also consider and accept the risks.

Nature has provided neither the first child at 40 nor pills. Also, monthly bleeding is not meant by nature to last a lifetime. The correct pattern would be: fertile -> child -> breastfeeding -> child -> breastfeeding -> child -> breastfeeding -> child, and so on. Until menopause.

listen! I can also agree with everyone having their first children after 40!!!!

we have 2 healthy children, the 2nd child came at 35 and we did a screening. After that, we had 4 months of horror because we didn’t know what was going on (subject trisomy 21). The doctor was just a doctor and not a "mimimi it will be fine everything super etc." He explained the risks very dryly etc.

In the end, everything turned out well.

So once again for all the do-gooders: Whoever thinks nature created humanity to have the first children after 40 because we supposedly have such great progress should also please consider and accept the risks.

This is really getting off-topic now:

If you already bring in the buzzword do-gooders here and demand that late mothers should accept the risks, then why did you do the screening? And why was there horror afterwards? The purpose of screening is to know beforehand, right? Somehow none of this quite adds up...

Take a deep breath and calm down. Then we’ll continue discussing.

Interesting how this thread keeps developing in the same direction again and again (also in the context of similar threads).

For example, my wife is not at all concerned with how to sensibly plan the conversion of an empty room when filling the 3rd child's room.

The fact that the OP did not want to exchange ideas here, that two children's rooms can become a sewing/and a TV room, has apparently also been overlooked by some.

Be that as it may...