Neighbor's tree - Security and dirt. Who is responsible?

  • Erstellt am 2021-04-05 18:46:49

andimann

2021-04-07 19:39:18
  • #1
Hi,

the trees are indeed no ornament, but looking into the garden there isn’t much left to spoil anyway. How does one come up with the strange idea of fencing themselves in with 2 m high double-wire mesh panels with plastic sheets in between? The neighbors can’t be that ugly to put up with that... Honestly, looking at that I would get depressed. Sorry, but it looks like a prison yard... "Come on, kid, you have exactly 1 hour of yard time now..."

Regarding the topic, given how the trees look and how exposed they stand, I would definitely have serious concerns about their stability.

I’m a complete dud when it comes to tree knowledge, so I have to ask stupidly: What exactly are those things? Looks like some kind of fir species to me?!? They usually have taproots, as far as I know. So you don’t have the argument that the root is on your property and hinders your freedom to design.

As others have already written, it certainly makes sense to have a conversation first. Otherwise, probably the only way is through an expert who certifies a lack of stability. But that takes time, costs a lot of money, and likely won’t make you very popular there in general...

Best regards,

Andreas
 

Ysop***

2021-04-07 19:55:03
  • #2
I have to agree with my predecessors. Barely arrived, immediately barricading yourself with a fence and making demands on the neighbor. That doesn't go over well. And then marching straight to the municipality to report it? That would really get you on my bad side. Obviously, you didn't build in a new development area, but in an established neighborhood. Then my first official action would be to try to integrate myself. If that is successful, favors also become easier. Good neighbors is give and take.
 

Tarnari

2021-04-07 20:38:59
  • #3
Guys, the OP hasn’t responded since the first post. Here people speculate, judge, and so on. Just wait until the OP has read, absorbed, and assessed the numerous posts in the meantime. If they even respond at all. I really find it remarkable. Like in another thread here, which revolves around massive construction defects. Sometimes you could get the impression that it’s more about "bashing" the OP, to put it in trendy terms, than constructively engaging with the topic.
 

Ysop***

2021-04-07 21:40:53
  • #4


Of course, one interprets the OP's statements and the pictures. And I really believe that as a newcomer, it's easier after having integrated for a while. When people know and appreciate each other, they are more likely to do each other a favor.
If a report has already been made to the municipality, the neighbor will probably become more stubborn rather than relent. At the moment, it no longer looks like an amicable agreement. The question is whether to bring out the heavy artillery over a few sparse branches and pine cones (to put it mildly).
 

Müllerin

2021-04-07 23:17:11
  • #5
... just to say, because I read it here: that ivy "strangles" a tree is a myth that is not true. These trees are probably almost dead anyway, but not because of the ivy.
 

lin0r87

2021-04-10 12:52:28
  • #6
Hoihoi dear community,
I have read through everything and, as mentioned, also assessed it and asked myself some questions.

The point about the "two meter" fence... The fence is 1.8m high. The reason we put up such a fence is simple! The neighbors on the left often have "small" parties and like their privacy. Our direct neighbor on the right likes to look into the garden and talks a bit too much with me. But the relationship is very good. This was discussed and accepted with both parties. 1.6m would also be fine. A 1.8m fence was erected.
My child is also allowed outside for 90 minutes sometimes, then it’s "back to your room" again ;)

Newly built and setting requirements...
That is not the case! Of course, the trees were there first. They have certainly been there for decades, I was still in diapers then. Nevertheless, the trees already caught our attention during the property inspection and we were advised to address this after moving in. We followed this advice and did so.
I did not go to the neighbor wearing a "bomber jacket" and demand that they remove the trees. I went there relaxed, in shorts and a T-shirt, and of course introduced myself! After a small talk, I brought up the subject. That was probably a thorn in their side. My new information from the respective neighbors and the seller of the property revealed that this has been an issue for years and everyone is unhappy about it and that there have been talks. Unsuccessful ones. Then I went to the city and “only” mentioned it. They already told me the city is not responsible. :)

Condition of the trees...
The trees are dead!
Three landscapers were here and inspected the trees on site and assessed them.
One even came again this week.
All three have come to the conclusion that the trees are due and are a danger to everyone. In strong but also in just light gusts of wind, the trees sway very strongly (I’m happy to make a video if it happens again). This strengthens my opinion that they are dangerous. We do not want to involve an expert. As some have already said... that costs money!

In my conversation with the good gentleman, it was also mentioned that I could “remove” the branches myself.
I am cautious here! I don’t know the person and don’t know how he ticks if there might be any kind of issues..................
Does it make sense to write a letter stating that we are allowed to cut the trees? So basically security for us.
_____________________

And now to the people who like to complain...
Just leave it!
I started a thread on this topic to get advice/help on how I can proceed or what the situation looks like.
I really don’t need an assessment of my fence, the pallets, or anything else.
This thread is only about these trees. If you want to comment on that, by all means.

The forum has helped me several times on many matters, very often even! I want to continue using it.
And the reason I only reply after eight pages is because I am quite stressed professionally.

In that sense, thanks for your tips :)
 

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