Move exterior wall in floor plan?

  • Erstellt am 2016-09-02 10:12:12

ypg

2016-09-02 13:41:40
  • #1
You yourself will be "thrown" right in front of the stairs when entering the house. You only open a door about 60 degrees for yourself or two people, so where do you end up?
 

Doc.Schnaggls

2016-09-02 14:02:56
  • #2
As already mentioned above, I am very interested to know what amount could actually be saved through this change.

With a house width of 10m, we are talking about 5 sqm per floor, so 10 sqm less floor area in total.

On both floors, about 50 cm of wall on each side are saved - assuming a room height of 2.70 m, that is 2.7 sqm of wall area per floor, so a total of 5.4 sqm less wall area.

The items that make a house expensive remain the same. Nothing changes regarding windows, doors, heating system, installations, other technology, etc.

In my opinion, the material effort for 10 sqm of floor area, 5.4 sqm of wall area, and then a bit of roof area cannot make such a huge difference - especially since I have already read above that there are BUs that even build a wall a bit longer with no additional cost - they (usually) have nothing to give away either.

Therefore, I would strongly recommend that I check with the BU what savings this change would bring and then put this amount in relation to a changed floor plan, over which you might regret for a lifetime if in doubt.

Ultimately, of course, it is your decision.

Regards,

Dirk
 

Jochen104

2016-09-02 14:46:49
  • #3
Have your planner draw a proper staircase into the plan. What is drawn in your plan is almost a space-saving staircase. And with that, the entire floor plan... unfortunately fails.
 

sauerpeter

2016-09-02 14:52:03
  • #4
First, a brief note on the kitchen and the tables. Please free yourselves from the drawn-in furniture there. Except for the kitchen unit, which will be placed roughly there (whether it is really that long remains to be seen), all other furniture was arbitrarily placed by the architect. So if there is a table in the living room shown, it can be ignored. Regarding the kitchen table situation: why don't you see a table there? As I said, usually the sliding door remains closed. Except for big occasions, although our families are manageable in size. And you will never get everyone at one table anyway, not even at Christmas or any other time. When the sliding door is closed, a table will easily fit there. Four people can sit there without any problems. Our kitchen is now smaller, and four people fit comfortably. We live in the in-laws’ house.

And what is meant by the wall of the pantry or hallway nose? We want a pantry, so the wall can't be removed there. And the study upstairs can be smaller. A desk and a cabinet just need to fit in. No couch or anything else. If it is then 6 sqm, that would be okay. The guest room doesn't have to be that big either; if guests sleep there, they only sleep there and don’t stay like in a hotel. And recessing the shower wouldn't make a difference of 3 sqm or so, right? If the shower is 90x90 and I recess it by half, the guest room loses a full 45 cm! How big are your guest rooms? 15 sqm?

Regarding the costs: of course, you have to calculate whether it’s worth it and how much cheaper it will be later on. But if, for example, you have a base price of 1500 EUR/sqm (just as an example) and save about 10 sqm, that already makes a difference. Even if you can’t calculate it that simply. Even if it’s only half, it’s still something.

Regarding the stairs: that’s a good point; we haven’t really paid attention to that yet. Thanks for that!
 

sauerpeter

2016-09-02 14:54:32
  • #5


As I said, we haven't really paid attention to the stairs in terms of the steps yet. I need to compare and measure other stairs. If the steps are really that small, the stairs might need to be made longer/bigger, which would probably make the wall shift unnecessary.
 

Jochen104

2016-09-02 15:19:06
  • #6
, shouldn't the picture with the stair measurements from be pinned somewhere here? Our straight staircase is 4.01 m long, by the way.
 

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