L-stones directly at the neighbor's fence?

  • Erstellt am 2017-07-27 22:06:36

Bieber0815

2017-07-28 11:07:33
  • #1
As far as I understand your texts, you are planning a step of about 1 m height on the boundary. That would not be nice towards the neighbor and according to all regulations known to me, it is not allowed (which is no statement for your location). With all due respect: in my opinion, you cannot simply explain your project with words, therefore the request (suggestion) for a sketch. Of course, a cross-sectional view is appropriate, not a top view. In the section (possibly several sections in different directions are needed), the original terrain profile should be visible as well as, if different, the current situation and, of course, the target state you are aiming for. If you have such a picture, that would be a good basis for everything further.
 

ypg

2017-07-28 11:30:15
  • #2
You always twist it as if we don’t understand it here. But you don’t understand that the state sets requirements with the state building code and the development plan, which we cannot assess in their entirety here because a) we do not have the development plan and b) even if we do, it is not our task to analyze or evaluate this component with regard to possibilities or restrictions. Normally, a community functions in such a way that the questioner’s blockage is removed, so they can check the formalities themselves. Maybe your building permit also states how the height difference should or should not be compensated. Basically, a fence is initially completely irrelevant. In 99% of all cases (or somewhat less) it is prohibited to build a raise up to the neighbor’s boundary. Often, embankments are mentioned that must be constructed under 30 degrees or so. Your problem is the large height difference with the combination of getting an even surface. Such problems arise, among other things, when building too high. Since the house is already built, it is about compromises, which you _must_ make and not your neighbors. Because whoever moves earth must see how they manage. Suggested solution: 3 x 50cm over 3 meters at the end of the property. Plant a hedge on the first lowest lying strip at the boundary. Plant low shrubs or create a nice path on the second surrounding meter. Execute a step from the terrace to the lawn for the remaining centimeters. Personally, I would make only one 50cm step and let the rest slope gently down.
 

Henrik0817123

2017-07-28 11:39:30
  • #3
I don’t want and don’t have to raise the fence by 1m, that would be pretty stupid for everyone involved.

I go out to the terrace and am 1m above the property line at the fence. From the start of the terrace I have 10m. Since, as far as I know, everything is done with a 2% slope and it still looks level, I theoretically still have 80cm at the fence. Either way, I want to go down from the terrace to a lower level, i.e. you could easily bridge 45cm in 3 steps there. That leaves 35cm to be bridged over about 6m. Ideally, I don’t want to have that completely up to the fence either and work with L-bricks (which is allowed without problems, I’m not among the 99% where it isn’t allowed), because that would still be too high, wouldn’t look good for the neighbor, etc...

Either way, I want to have a strip of about 70cm at the fence to plant a hedge or something else. This strip can already be at the same level as the neighbor, then everything would be fine for him as well. That means I would have a 45cm edge in front of the strip, for example by a retaining wall or some kind of slope.

I just don’t want to lose much space. The 10m between the house and the end are 4m terrace, then 6m more - the last meter goes for the hedge or something, so only 5m lawn area, which should preferably stay level as well. A hard edge probably costs a lot of money – I don’t know if the 45cm can be done by sloping on the last meter and if a hedge or similar can be planted there on a mini slope.

I just find it strange if our lawn ends 1 meter before the boundary and then goes down either sloping or straight, that would basically create a ditch. But somehow it will work out, so that after growing a hedge, etc., you might not even notice the height difference anymore?

I can still make a cross-section drawing.
 

HilfeHilfe

2017-07-28 12:48:50
  • #4


What you describe last is also strange and describes the situation of our neighbors. It looks totally stupid and impractical. Only stuff grows there that nobody really can/wants to remove.

Why did it all come about like this? Because the neighbors don't get along and everyone only did what was allowed.

For example, I made a compromise with my neighbor, he has his fence, I have my wall, and I no longer have a slope. He is above the allowed 2 meters, I am higher than the allowed 1 meter without any kind of permit.

So just talk to the neighbors? What's the use of digging through paragraphs when you already know that it won't help and won't look good anyway.

You are the main problem here, you are already trying to build a shield for all eventualities through paragraphs. My condolences to the neighbor.
 

Henrik0817123

2017-07-28 12:57:48
  • #5
Don’t understand this! I have already said several times that I will also talk to the neighbor, but I still need a rough plan now since earthworks have started. What earth will be removed, how can it roughly be pushed over, etc.

Why am I the problem if my property is higher or slopes downward? Should the general expectation be that my meadow is laid out with a slope? Hardly.

Somehow we are talking past each other or the property situation is hard to understand here.

Others have a 1-meter difference and find a solution, and we are now talking about 45 cm as written. There must be something reasonable.

I don’t want to build a wall on his fence, not least because it will be quite expensive for about 50 m in total.

See the sketch; we also have 3 neighbors in the area – it will also be difficult to make everyone happy at the same time and us too.
 

Bau-Schmidt

2017-07-28 13:30:54
  • #6
I always talk to my neighbors first. What’s the use of "petty war at the garden fence."
 

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