Kitchen purchase - How do you negotiate the price?

I'll get an offer next week as well.... I hope the carpenter can keep up. I still need a bit more from the carpenter and hope to get a good overall package. Only if I do end up having to deal with such nonsense kitchen dealers, I want to be "well-versed in all tricks." Negotiating doesn't come hard to me. It's in my blood, but I like to prepare a strategy in advance, and hearing from others how things look isn't bad either :=)

Hello Der Da, I would also recommend the carpenter to you, my parents built a new house last year and also got several offers from kitchen dealers, all around ~24,000€, but the carpenter's kitchen ultimately cost them 16,000€.

By the way, my kitchen, like Bauexperte's, is also from Ikea, and I can't complain about the workmanship at all. If you look around a bit, you'll also find the same suppliers, for example for the hinges, as with the branded kitchens. However, we bought the electrical appliances somewhere else. By the way, 80 cm cabinets are available.

Best regards,

Sebastian

Well, the price is exactly the problem: The last kitchen I had planned was supposed to cost 19,000. I swallowed three times, turned pale, and as if from nowhere the dealer told me he could go down to 13,000, and then another 2,000 promotional discount. Well, then I saved 8,000 in 10 minutes and still felt cheated. I'm sure that this kitchen could just as well be sold for 8,000.

These are business methods that I absolutely detest. But now I'll wait and see what the carpenter says. With him, I get a fixed price. He calculates material + labor time + [Märchensteuer]. Let's see what comes out.

Hello,
I can agree with Bauexperte.
Our first kitchen came from the kitchen studio and was reasonably priced (or so we thought). After nearly two years, we wanted to reorder a narrow pantry cabinet (about 160 cm high and 25 cm wide) and they wanted 1000 + € for it. Haha....

The second kitchen (due to moving) also came from the Swede! We assembled it ourselves and a friend aligned the parts. He works as a kitchen assembler at a large furniture store. He said the quality was good and he was right about that.
Our IKEA built-in appliances (oven, induction stove, and dishwasher) originally come from AEG (the AEG logo is, for example, on the dishwasher behind the sealing lip at the top edge).
The electrical appliances are good except for the dishwasher. The dishwasher is a disaster and I would replace it, but considering that another move to the new house is planned next year, I will keep running the machine for now and then sell it on Ebay next year.

By the way, Swedish kitchens are good and partly come from the same plants/factories as the kitchens of various brand manufacturers.

Our current kitchen is also from Ikea. We wanted a cheap kitchen back then because we already knew we wouldn't stay in the apartment forever. We also assembled it ourselves. Overall, the kitchen offers great value for money, but for our new building, I absolutely couldn't imagine it, as I want something special, just something individual. Especially since the selection of fronts is really not that special. Therefore, we are also curious about what kind of offer the carpenter will make us...

I want to tell you what I did when it came to the kitchen for the new house. I took advantage of exactly this bad habit that you don’t get plans or parts lists from any seller and played two furniture stores against each other. Seller 1 planned a kitchen for me from a well-known manufacturer. However, a few wall cabinets as well as various details (faucet, etc.) were still missing. Including various discounts, special offers, and the like. Since, as always, I did not receive any planning documents, the seller wrote the calculated price on his business card and handed it to me. I then went to furniture store 2 and had the same kitchen priced there. But this time completely with continuous wall cabinets, an additional shelf, faucet, and so on and so forth. Accordingly, it was naturally more expensive. So I told seller 2 that I was terribly sorry, but once again we would not make a deal, since over the past years I had already bought living rooms, 2 children’s rooms, etc. from the competitor because they were always more expensive. He then asked if I could prove that. I pulled out the competitor’s business card with the written price and started calculating. After a while, he said that couldn’t be, that he couldn’t get to that price, and asked if the kitchen had really been planned exactly the same way as here. Since, of course, there were no planning documents from seller 1 and he, as a seller, obviously also knew that they were not given out, he had to trust my word, which of course was: “of course it was planned exactly the same and no differently.” He then said that only his boss could decide that. And that’s where you are absolutely right. If he has to call his boss, that shows that the margin is already only moderate and you are buying at a reasonable price. I then told the same story to his boss. And lo and behold, I got the complete kitchen for less than the price of the unfinished one from furniture store 1. Best regards

That exactly the kitchen you bought a year ago disappears from the program can happen to you anywhere.

If you are happy with your purchase, you shouldn't think about it anymore. But if I buy something and still feel cheated afterward, then I don't enjoy the kitchen either. I know that the final kitchen price is often multiplied by the factor 2.4 or 2.0.
I got the numbers from various forums and from the prices mentioned at the beginning and what was ultimately paid. There were usually weeks of discussions in between for many to achieve these results, etc.
I have no patience for this circus, but I also don't want to pay too much since building a house is tough enough.
That's why I'm looking for tactics, tricks, and hacks that shorten the way for me.

Next week on Friday I have the appointment with the carpenter and I'm curious about how much about 8m of kitchen will cost me.