Is a development plan required for obtaining offers?

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ypg

2018-03-06 17:33:49
  • #1


Phew, honestly? That can take a while. And if an office says, summer, possibly late summer, that can also mean autumn. Which year is uncertain.
Besides, the development still has to be carried out, first it will be tendered, selected, and by the time the construction crew rolls in, it could be spring ...
might know more precisely :)
 

11ant

2018-03-06 19:24:33
  • #2
Plots generally do not become building land only partially, unless they consist of several parcels. The kindergarten is an interesting point of reference: was a development plan drawn up for it, or was the area of an existing development plan extended to include the affected parcels? – are there even development plans there, or is the entire village possibly a §34 area? My impression is that the construction of the kindergarten was made possible at the level of the land use plan (through designation as building land) and that, in order to avoid lawsuits, neighboring plots were "taken along". I do not read any indication here that the municipality at all feels its own urge to develop a building area. In this respect, I interpret the specification of the processing time very hypothetically (counted from when we would even want to). I can well imagine that the municipality will respond to a preliminary building inquiry: "first order (and pay) nicely for us to extend a road to your property, then you may build according to §34, i.e. single-storey like the kindergarten, with a gable roof of the same pitch, boundary distances according to the state building code, no specifications for floor area ratio/floor space index."
 

Escroda

2018-03-06 19:42:28
  • #3
They called you to ask if you might like to stop by for a coffee, which you did. Then someone took out a map and said that the field there will now be converted into building land; ask again next year. And now, since you inquired, one says maybe something will happen in April and another says maybe something will happen in late summer...

I don’t know how your authority is organized. Which office and which caseworker is responsible for what. But someone must have brought up a specific concern. The building authority is usually responsible for building permits. The land registry office for buying and selling land. The planning office for the development of building land. Depending on the size of the municipality, the authorities are located in different places (municipality, city, district). Who did you speak to and what did they want from you?

Usually, a field goes through at least two development stages on its way to becoming building land: expected building land and raw building land. A field becomes expected building land when the area is designated as a building area in the land use plan or the municipality announces a plan to change it or classifies outer area land as inner area land. Expected building land becomes raw building land through a legally binding development plan. And raw building land becomes building land when development is secured.

Who says that? Whether the property is buildable is regulated by §§30-35 of the Building Code. A basic prerequisite is always that development is secured. Is it? Is the property accessible from a public road? Are supply and disposal lines laid to the property?
 

Nordlys

2018-03-06 21:23:55
  • #4
Development can also be organized and paid for by oneself. Path, pipes. Lines. What has the municipality changed? The F plan? That would then be land expected to be developed. Is it drawing up a B plan because of the daycare center? Is that already in place? My advice, since you present this very unclearly and rather uninformed, please treat yourself to a consultant who knows the subject. Or use terms precisely yourself. Where are we? F plan? B plan? Who is developing? 34 construction or classic with floor area ratio etc.? Has something already been drawn up and published, only objection and display deadlines need to be observed? Or does one want to draw something up and only get the resolution in the summer? Karsten
 

tamy.dvs

2018-03-07 09:31:21
  • #5
Oh dear, I didn't think it would be this confusing and take up so much space, I really didn't expect that! ;)

So maybe I need to say a little something to perhaps "untangle" things a bit. The municipality did not come to us saying, "Do you want to build, we’ll turn it into building land," but my brother already inquired 2-3 years ago whether there would ever be a possibility for it to be converted into building land. I also have a close relative who is more or less active in the city council and has therefore heard a lot and has good contacts (that's how I know it is supposed to be converted in April or June).

Because of this inquiry in the past, it just turned out that, in connection with the new kindergarten, we were given the assurance that we may build on part of the property. It is actually only a part and not the entire property. This was also published last year in March in the local newspaper under the city’s resolutions, including markings of the future building land on our property.

The part of the property that is being converted is actually the piece between the kindergarten and the only neighbor, so just this piece (about 2000 sqm in total), the rest will remain farmland. Therefore, it is also directly on a developed road; we only have to take over the few meters to our property (we're talking just a few meters).

At the meeting at the building authority last year, we were already told in advance that we are quite free in the design since there is not much around us and the two houses directly next door are very different from each other. What we know so far is that we have to observe the tree protection boundary and that the height can be a maximum of 3 stories. But there will certainly be a few other things; I know that. I looked again in the notary documents yesterday, and he is already talking about land with building expectation; I think he must have other sources for that. I have another appointment there next week (regarding the land register entry of the property), maybe I will find out something else then.

It's not urgent for us; I would just think it’s not a bad idea to do a bit of "preliminary work," so that we can start directly at the latest at the beginning of next year after the assurance has been given that it is supposed to be building land in the next weeks/months and road, sewer, etc., are all in place. But I think I'll just wait because there is quite a bit at stake. If it only works out in a year or later, that wouldn’t be a big deal.

Thanks anyway for all the helpful contributions until now; it has already helped me a lot. And you can tell yourself, I am completely new to the subject, hence my clumsiness, which hopefully won’t last long. I will definitely cling to the building authority again and try to get some information. Maybe it was the caseworker’s fault. I was just afraid that too many inquiries would ultimately be to our disadvantage. But maybe it wouldn’t be wrong to ask again!

Best regards
 

kaho674

2018-03-07 09:45:02
  • #6
That sounds great. You can get rich that fast if you are lucky. Since you apparently have quite a bit of freedom in planning, now is the right time to have millions of catalogs from the house providers sent to you. :D
 

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