How do we build most economically?

  • Erstellt am 2014-01-15 14:41:05

K1300S

2014-01-15 16:11:55
  • #1
??? In your initial post, it sounded as if a completed plan already exists - at least regarding the layouts/equipment. As long as that is not the case, of course no prices can be given yet - logical. So either a given plan must exist, or you plan (at least very roughly) with the GÜ, who then creates an offer including a price quotation.

VG

K1300S
 

Kisska86

2014-01-15 16:20:22
  • #2
There is a rough plan from the GÜ or broker. A house with 130 sqm is planned, which exactly fits this plot of land. And according to the broker's statement, it is a higher medium standard. Where exactly are the details stated afterwards? In the [Werkvertrag]? How exactly is it stated there? I have never seen a [Werkvertrag] before...
 

K1300S

2014-01-15 16:26:46
  • #3
The level of detail ranges from to. Some construction and service descriptions include every tiny piece of information, others are written very superficially. The more that is predetermined from the outset, the less potential there is for later disputes. In any case, the construction service description is part of the contract for work (if applicable, as an attachment thereto).

VG

K1300S
 

wadenkneifer

2014-01-15 16:35:00
  • #4
Hello,

exactly how it is written there and where it is depends on the GÜ. For our construction project, the scope of the performance specification (part of the contract) is almost 50 pages, and every detail is described exactly as it will be built. The actual contract for work is significantly shorter, at about 15 pages, but it also only covers the legal framework. I have seen performance specifications that are 2 pages long ("usual" for many GÜ is about 15 pages) and contracts for work that are one page long. You get an impression very quickly.

The procedure with our construction companies was: complete planning of the house in a planning meeting (floor plans, views, energy standard, heating/technology, rough material selection/selection of the quality of the equipment). Based on this planning meeting, concrete plans were created, we reviewed these, and then on this basis and the additionally requested parameters, the calculation/offer with the detailed performance specification was prepared. A few options were also included here (additional roller shutters, for example). There was also a contract draft. We examined both thoroughly (and had them examined), and in another appointment, the offer was explained to us in detail. We then signed the contract quite quickly after 1-2 minor changes. When preparing the building application, it was actually only about where exactly the house should be located on the plot. The sampling also went very quickly, as a lot had already been precisely determined in advance (e.g., interior doors). We could have done the sampling before signing as well.

Certainly, this is also an extreme case and the provider went significantly into advance performance. I still liked it very much and it was worth the price difference to the (less exact/precise) competition for me.

Best regards

Michael
 

Kisska86

2014-01-15 16:52:35
  • #5
@Michael: When exactly did you sign the contract with the bank? I mean, during the entire planning process?
 

wadenkneifer

2014-01-15 17:25:20
  • #6


Quick answer: The financing with the bank was applied for and completed based on the first concrete offer from "our construction company." In this case, this exactly matched the later specification down to the euro.

In "long" our path to the house:
- Rough financial planning (equity, rough house costs, ancillary costs vs. income, other expenses, financing options)
- Verification of rough financial planning with an independent advisor. Confirmation that our rough planning is basically financeable under the personal conditions.
- Search and inspection of countless plots of land, plot found & reserved (some with builder binding were also among them, and they were quickly sorted out.)
- Initial talks with several construction companies, review of various catalogs & specifications, visits to different show homes/parks
- Determination of the "dream house" (what is mandatory equipment, how should the layout be?), discussion of various standard floor plans from catalogs => none really fit
- 3 concrete offers from 3 companies (each a standard house adapted to our wishes, size, layout etc. very similar) / talks to specify the offers
- Decision on the construction company
- Obtaining concrete financing offers
- Submission of financing documents
- Signing of financing documents
- Notary appointment / purchase of land
- Final negotiation of the contract / construction specification
- Signing of the house contract

Maybe also interesting: Overall, it took about 6 months from the first financial planning to the signing of the contract. And that, although we pretty much knew exactly what we wanted/needed and where (region). Unfortunately, 3 children's rooms and an office are not standard in German single-family houses, so there were not many suggestions for the floor plan beforehand.

And I would always do it exactly in this order again.

Best regards

Michael
 

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