Construction company rejects change requests in construction service description and construction contract

  • Erstellt am 2016-11-21 16:39:24

Mycraft

2016-11-23 08:17:46
  • #1
Our GÜ was/is a big one and in the construction performance description it often only said: "brand product." On inquiries and during sampling, specific products could be firmly included in the protocol. Many warned me against such an approach, yet we built with them and have not regretted it so far... that does not mean I approve of it, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the GÜ is bad because of that.

P.S. Regarding the heating, I no longer knew anything except that it would be a gas condensing boiler until the day it was mounted on the wall... and it became a Junkers...
 

Payday

2016-11-23 09:39:07
  • #2
There are things that you can normally get in easily, others are almost impossible.

You can easily get:
- certain products like for example a "Zehnder comfoair" ventilation system (this includes all points where the company "namenhafte hersteller" appears in the construction service description)
- directly negotiated extras like "50 additional sockets included in the price"

Difficult to impossible:
- rewording of phrases like the mentioned "essentially free of defects". No contractor can assess what this change ultimately means financially and whether the contractor is not making a concession to the customer.

So:
if you want a specific heating system from a certain company, you can negotiate this completely without problems with the companies (possibly with an additional charge). The size of the system is always calculated based on the requirements profile of the house. It makes no sense if they tell you now it’s a 5 kW system, but in the end you actually need 7 kW. You can be certain that the system is properly sized for your house (systems that are too large are also less efficient because they operate far below nominal load).
Many "namenhafte hersteller" phrases from the construction service description are still chosen by you after signing. These include for example the facing bricks (house facade), roof tiles, toilet, shower, bathroom in general, tiles, etc. The easiest thing would be to look at the sample hall before signing and see what is included in the price and what would cost extra.
In the end, there are maybe 2-3 things where you are really surprised by what you get. This includes the heating system mentioned several times, and you can come to an agreement on that.
The best thing is still to choose the one that the gas and water installer always uses. You could contact builders who are currently building with the companies. The easiest way is through these viewing appointments of completed houses that every major construction company makes available online to everyone. Go there and talk to the builders and gather experience.

If you already have stress before signing, it’s better to forget it. The money for a lawyer to review the construction service description and contract is never wasted money – especially if you ultimately don’t sign. Why else would you want this review?!
 

DragonyxXL

2016-11-23 10:04:56
  • #3

As already mentioned, this cannot be said so generally. If some things are specified, it takes away the contractor’s flexibility, and that is disadvantageous for him. Which size specifications are missing then?


I do believe the contractor understands that you want to protect yourself. Why don’t you offer to pay him €5,000 more for this protection? Since when is additional protection free? Keyword: insurance.

As already mentioned, some things still need to be calculated before a statement about the performance can be made, especially if you are standing between the medium and the large performance variant at a heating manufacturer (or due to that, a product of another manufacturer would fit much better).

It should therefore be stated whether it is a gas boiler, an air heat pump, or something else. From my point of view, the exact performance does not have to be specified. There will be a heat load calculation, and from that it will become clear what needs to be installed. But the contractor can’t just install half the capacity and say that’s fine.


I can understand hip roof shape and brand of tiles, but diameter of the columns, not really.



Precisely there I would not understand the concerns. The contractor is responsible for the timely construction progress. For delays due to changes and the client’s own work as well as bad weather, there are corresponding extensions. Accordingly, the contractor can accept hefty contractual penalties if he is granted a reasonable construction period. (For us, for example, 7.5 months construction time, so rather long. We have negotiated the contractual penalty significantly upwards and it is now around €3400/month.)
The bank guarantee should normally also not be a problem. The only question is who bears the cost for it. If you are willing to pay for it, the contractor should have no problem with it.


For us, there is no completion date but only a construction start and a construction period from which a completion date can be derived. We received a construction schedule last week when the shell was half finished. It’s not bad for orientation but can change for numerous reasons anyway. Moreover, the construction period is decisive, not what the construction schedule says.

Overall, from my point of view, you are going one step too far in several places with your demands, which was also to be expected after legal consultation. With this attitude, you will also have problems with other companies. Maybe someone here in the forum knows companies where you have a chance of success in contract modifications.
 

DragonyxXL

2016-11-23 10:07:58
  • #4
Would you like to possibly mention the name of the company?
 

Bieber0815

2016-11-23 10:46:59
  • #5
Yes. For the calculation, in my opinion, the flow temperature should be specified, approximately: "Underfloor heating in all rooms with individual room control in all rooms. The calculation is based on a maximum flow temperature of xx °C. The bathroom additionally receives a towel radiator (1800 mm x 600 mm), which is connected to the underfloor heating circuit.".

It could say "... diameter according to structural analysis". And then it should be specified how the columns look in the end ("made of proven concrete according to structural analysis and painted twice in white with a facade color."). Something like that ... The type and quality of the paint can certainly be described better/more precisely.
 

Payday

2016-11-23 12:08:59
  • #6
the flow temperature probably goes too far, as it is only calculated later. the rest will probably fit. more could also be stated regarding the roof overhang. however, one can have shown what is "included in the price." if that is the standard construction performance description, you will see the board with every current house of the company. and you look at a few current houses anyway and talk to the builders. they have 100 times more to report about the construction company than anyone else...

and just tell us the construction company. the big companies are known here and you can possibly say something about them.
 

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