General criticism of architecture, spatial layout, exterior appearance

  • Erstellt am 2018-11-29 13:55:37

Christian K.

2018-12-05 15:19:36
  • #1

Yes, that bothers us too and your suggestion will be implemented sooner or later.

Regarding the rest of the discussion... My two actual questions were:
1. Do you think there could be problems with the architecture if we wanted to sell the house?
2. Do you have any general comments on the design?

Question two was strongly discussed and the discussion certainly shifted. In hindsight, the further documents make sense and one would have liked the plot ratio, floor space ratio, etc. I also don’t think it’s fair to accuse us of not filling out the questionnaire properly. I could be snarky now and claim that the first post wasn’t read, because the questionnaire was answered. Yes, some questions were skipped, but I gave the reasons.
We skipped some questions because we didn’t want the discussion to be that detailed. As I said, see the questions that it was really about. Sure, hindsight is always 20/20.

On the first pages the discussion was great and no one cared that no cadastral map was provided, or that the GEZ etc. was missing. Then it drifted as soon as we disagreed and the mood got worse. Certainly I contributed to that, but I don’t take full blame for it.

Another nice example of how the topic drifts: Although no slope was ever mentioned and the drawings exactly reflect reality, they are presented as “distorted.” Now it’s speculated that there is a slope and then a basement makes more sense. Exactly the kind of conversations we wanted to avoid, because you can’t cover all topics in one thread at once.

I hope you understand what I mean and surely I might be wrong, but I find some messages here not very nice.

To satisfy your curiosity, here is the cadastral map and traffic area
 

kaho674

2018-12-05 16:17:23
  • #2
Strange, I feel like my toes got stepped on just now. To my knowledge, I asked politely for the missing information. It wasn't apparent here that the OP didn't want a discussion about the basement or floor plan. And asking about the slope when there has to be such heavy filling is legitimate, isn't it?

So if you prefer it that way:
This is a pretty nice house. End.
 

11ant

2018-12-05 16:43:26
  • #3

That means nothing, in the picture many of the shown designs stand on a green "Lego baseplate" that represents all heights as flat levels, and in reality the plots are bumpy like a military training area after a mole invasion.


In a "3D" isometric view, the weighting of dimensions and perspectives is generally hard to judge for "outside" viewers, while here at least the "core team" have a lot of practice reading development plans and survey maps (with elevation marks).


Drifting off is a big word here, and blame even more so.


I summarize:
1. I don't see any problem in the architecture; absolutely the house is not too far from mainstream taste, depending on the location it might exceed the avant-garde limit of a cow village. A buyer will never say they would have paid more for a more pronounced S-shape of the façade or give you the bird for offering a house without a walled dressing room.
2. My general remark is: what I would do differently lies entirely in the area of taste differences. You will use your sauna without us, so we don't care whether you build it - just as our suggestions are a quarry - make something of it or not. You should engage with the correlation between terrain modeling and drainage or elevation measurement points for eaves height, etc. You can put your aquarium in our sauna.
 

Christian K.

2018-12-05 16:45:41
  • #4
That was not directly aimed at you. I deliberately left out quotes here so that no one would feel offended. For a few pages now, people here (including myself) have been feeling quickly attacked and then reacting accordingly. You, for example, your last two lines.
 

Christian K.

2018-12-05 16:53:33
  • #5
OK, I understand, but the house is not built on the bumpy ground, it is prepared beforehand. Sure, many designs are drawn on a green field and do not fit the actual situation. But our architect has correctly drawn in the street, etc. Sure, people are skeptical. The "problem" in the new development area is that the construction road is currently about 1.3m above the ground. So actually all plots have to be filled up. In the neighboring communities that was already the case and most then bring the floor slab (if no basement) up to street level. Whether top edge, bottom edge, etc. In my opinion, no one will leave their plot so low because they will then have problems when it rains. Therefore, so far we want the bottom edge of the base at the top edge of the street. For me this is already off-topic, but I am happy to answer the questions.
 

11ant

2018-12-05 17:03:04
  • #6
That is not immediately off-topic just because it goes beyond your original question. For example, if you calculate the heights from the manhole cover and the development plan from the original terrain, then your design will be decapitated and the bedroom will have to be added at the bottom. Or your neighbor fills up less high. Then your carport shifts by a runoff gutter from the boundary.
 

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