From commercial property to a bungalow

Well, you had also planned the bathroom in the extension at the height of the kitchen. The drainage, however, is much more complex with the toilet than the kitchen drainage.

If the technology comes in orange, then you can go down there and continue the wastewater pipes under the garage ceiling


What is the height of the garages?
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one could go from the kitchen to the bathroom and then continue together. That would require a maximum height build-up of about 20 cm for the wastewater pipe plus wastewater pipe = roughly 25 cm.

As I said... swapping the kitchen and living room in my plan... then the kitchen would rather be an L-shape with a seating area in the middle of the room. How does that look? What are your ideas there?

And, how likely is a third child?

I know you wrote that you are very emotionally attached to the building.

But honestly: the floor plan is pretty stupid to use, the pipes are inconvenient and not sufficient (and in one case there is a breakthrough into a gutter below), I assume, also from an energy standpoint, this is certainly not a very energy-efficient building. You don’t have a basement and therefore very little storage space. So, it really doesn’t bring much joy.

I would really consider an alternative of demolition and new construction. Don’t shout NO right away, just weigh the pros and cons:
- you could create a room layout that makes more sense
- no problems with supply and drainage pipes
- electrical planning (I think a lot still needs to be done here, or are there already appropriate cables for TV and all communication and are there enough sockets everywhere?) can be approached according to modern aspects
- you could build more energy-efficiently
- no compromises and tricks (I’m already thinking again about the drainage through the garage into the gutter below)
- the roof doesn’t have to be renovated, it’s new ;)
etc.

I would really think about it. Even a new build inside the old walls (so that you perhaps don’t have to observe any distance requirements that currently don’t apply because of the existing structure) would be preferable to forbidding yourself like this. Yvonne has already made a reasonably suitable proposal for the conditions, but honestly: it’s not the best solution. It doesn’t work with the given requirements.

Personally, I wouldn’t feel like spending that much money on a property where I ultimately have to make so many compromises. Especially when it might be possible to do it differently...

Hello,

demolition is out of the question for us. Just the costs for disposal, etc., and the new permits seem pointless to us. Of course, we have thought about building completely new somewhere else, but even then compromises have to be made. If it turns out now that all the effort and thoughts lead to nothing, we will look elsewhere.

Next week we will know more regarding wastewater and windows. Thank you very much for your thoughts and ideas.


whether a third child is coming...? We can't say yet, but we would need a guest room. What ideas do you have if a fourth room does not have to be planned.

Regards
Carolin

Well, first of all the issue with the windows in the one wall has to be clarified. Because if there are not allowed to be windows there, the room layout with 3 rooms there won’t work.

I would be interested to know who owns the neighboring property regarding the undevelopable plot on the upper plan wall? It sounds and looks like a public area or a transformer house for a utility provider or something similar?

If I have found the correct legal source for NDS, openings would be possible with the neighbor's consent. If the neighbor is then the municipality or a utility provider, it should work.

Best regards Dirk Grafe

I'm just not sure if it will be cheaper to renovate an old building that was previously used commercially instead of building something new there.

It's not just the walls that need insulation, the floor slab also won't meet today's requirements and you probably don't want cold feet, but, if I've read correctly, underfloor heating.

I admit, I'm a bit of a burned child right now, my brother is currently renovating an old house and it's really a Pandora's box... The costs for it now easily exceed those of a new build.