Floor plan staircase planning: Does that make sense?

Hello,

we are having a really hard time imagining the staircase based on our plan. According to the plan, there is a single spiral staircase from the ground floor to the upper floor, and a double spiral staircase from the ground floor to the basement.
According to the plan, however, the steps do not start at the same height (not the height upwards, but the staircase to the upper floor starts earlier; I don’t know how to describe this better).
Does that make sense? Also, the staircase to the basement seems very large to me. If there were no space in the "U," could more space be gained in the hallway?

I hope my descriptions are clear.

The presentation is more than messy. And I doubt that both of the two different stair flights end with a 17.5/27 division. This division should basically be possible, but a clean drawing should be made that also provides sectional views.

I hope my descriptions are clear.

I hope I have correctly understood your question or concern. As it looks, everything is in order. Downstairs is the double-wound staircase with 15 steps, upstairs only single-wound with 17 steps. Thus, the steps are distributed somewhat differently. I actually wanted to tag Kerstin ( ) here, who can confirm this. But it seems we have different approaches to the perspectives. Of course, it would be important to know the story heights. But the staircase going up is often somewhat more comfortable. But I also confirm it’s untidy in the sense that the information apparently gets mixed. One step is built over in the upper floor (see shower), but that should fit.

Would there be no room in the "U"

You imagine a larger hallway if the basement staircase is narrowed so that there is no free space (U) inside? That’s not that simple. If you were to do without the U, the basement staircase would have to become longer to reach the necessary steps. If you did that, the hallway in front of the staircase would become narrower, which makes it harder to get furniture down there. The staircases are also coordinated with each other. They share width and indirectly the stairwell. This dependency also ensures the necessary head clearance at the stairwell. However, I am surprised that the basement apartment is or will be approved as such. It is not separated from the main apartment by the cloakroom. May I ask where you stand with the planning? Are you willing to still change some bottlenecks there? If not, then I’ll not mention them.

we find it incredibly difficult to imagine the staircase based on our plan.

Then have the plans plotted again with fewer overlapping levels. Even for me, it is very exhausting to read like this, as it is too confusingly highly compressed.

Does that make sense?

I assume the overall structure (I don’t want to say “-concept” here, as it seems to me the opposite, i.e. anarchic chaos) is inevitable due to too many wishes expressed by you. For nighttime toilet visits from the children’s rooms, I see a strict zero tolerance here. Without the space-saving staircase to the attic, the labyrinth would already be significantly more relaxed. I sincerely hope that the design is still open to discussion; you should urgently present it here to the emergency room specialists. The unfinished additional apartment certainly doesn’t “make sense” at the latest. Did you come with the wish for a Wolpertinger as a draftsman? From an engineering point of view, this is a tightrope walk between genius and madness; architecturally, it results in a Frankensteiniade. One almost has to wish that the building authority protects you from this excessive audacity / kamikaze.

The staircase to the basement also seems very large to me. If there is no space in the "U", could more room be gained in the hallway? I hope my descriptions are clear.

I can follow your words even less than the plans. In which hallway do you want to gain more space and how?

It would of course be important to know the story heights.

Basement./.Ground floor 2.73 m, Ground floor./.Upper floor 2.97 m, Upper floor./.Attic not discernible.

Oops .. the stairs to the attic, that will be a slalom run on the upper floor.

On closer inspection, there are quite a few points to consider in the floor plan.

[*]Ground floor ... access to the terrace somehow blocked by the table or a slalom run from the kitchen
[*]Ground floor ... kitchen more than small, in usage planning rather a single-person kitchen, limited by a pantry in the family living area, even though there is a basement
[*]Upper floor .. master bedroom ... wall for the headboard of the bed only about 320 cm wide, and the next slalom from the bed to the dressing room / bathroom. The bed is supposed to have a mattress of 200x220 .. that will be tight towards the window side if you want to make the beds there
[*]Upper floor - laundry chute in the master bathroom and not centrally located