Corner plot with a granny flat

But now I’ve mixed everything up…. I would prefer the exterior view

A "large" gable roof house with a small bay window on the front and back

And inside the other design (granny flat in the west)

Why ... @Hausmma had probably also once mentioned somewhere that for the granny flat, the morning coffee on the terrace is actually important. And this east terrace of the granny flat also receives southern sun.

What about that? Do I have it wrong in my head?

What about that? Do I have that wrong in my head?

If it settles all the way down in the south, there should be sun there in the morning too, right? Oh well, difficult. We need to sit down together again.

And what I just don't like is the long dark narrow hallway – don't you have another idea for that? Maybe a different staircase design after all?

Ok you're right, I would have given the kitchen a small wall towards the hallway

Yes, and with the small wall to the hallway you have your long dark narrow hallway! It must be said: there is no "bathe me, but don't get me wet."

If she places herself all the way at the bottom in the south, shouldn't there be sun in the morning too?

May I ask which days and times we are talking about? I assume that the mother is active and uses the day. That means in summer as well as in winter, that she sits at the breakfast table at 7/8 am. And yes, in winter it is still dark then and she sits inside. In summer she probably also sits inside to eat, but sometimes likes to go outside as well.

Her biggest wish: dining table by the window to have breakfast with sunshine in the morning. (At the moment she lives in an old dark house, about 80sqm and a large garden which she uses a lot)

Northeast is where the sun rises in summer etc., so you might have to deal with that. I do not read there that she is a terrace-breakfast person, as I wrote further above, but that she likes morning sun. And that means: east side!

Ah… yes, difficult… we have to sit down again.

I find it very difficult to optimize a plan when hardly anything comes from the OP except something about a long narrow and dark hallway. You want a chill area in a corner/niche, kitchen also separated, short hallway, but lots of space. You can't have all that. Not for your budget and not within the building envelope, and not anywhere else on this plot. And not with mom either. Accept that and make your compromises. The drafts are all good, feasible and already quite mature, even if some things remind of Tetris. But if you want a niche for everything, then it won't work. However, you also have to say what you dislike or like. We serve you designs on the tablet, which are not made in an hour. And madam says: "Ah, yes, difficult." Say more. Say what is stupid, what you don't understand, what could be great. So far, you have always backed down on another aspect. I would advise you not to build for now. You don't know what you want and can't decide. Is it your mother or mother-in-law?

Northeast is where the sun rises in summer, etc., so you might have to deal with that.
I don’t read that she is a terrace breakfast person, as I wrote above, but that she likes morning sun. And that means: east side!

Yes, that’s right, that was the case... all the more reason it has to be the east side. If the granny flat is on the west side, then there is no morning sun, at no time of the year.

So, I think the plan from post 79 actually fulfills all the conditions that were formulated at the beginning.

You also have to realize that 537 sqm with the room requirements, 2 terraces, as well as 3 parking spaces, requires quite a bit of plot area. And 537 sqm is certainly not that little, but also not that generous.
I’ll put the plans together again:

Site plan:
It can already be noted that the plot is surrounded by streets on 3 sides. The west side also looks like a bigger street, the east street more like a residential street.

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Planning 1
Granny flat in the east... however, particularly the summer morning sun in the granny flat is taken away by the garage.
In the main apartment the rather difficult to furnish common room, since the room width is about 550 cm (actually too wide for TV, too narrow for cooking/dining).

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Planning 2
Granny flat in the west:
Here the garage is in the south, actually for the granny flat, but access to the garden area of the main apartment is only through this garage... Also here the kitchen of the main apartment is rather a 2-room apartment kitchen and very small. In the living area of the main apartment somehow no flow at all and a lot of free space that somehow doesn’t help.

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By the way, I consider the utility room to be too small in both plans, since a washing machine/dryer are planned there. Especially in Planning 1 it could be too small.

Planning 3
Plan from

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So we slept on it for a few nights and unfortunately only had a brief chance to talk about it.

make your compromises

I am trying.
My first compromise is already to give up a large garden and a second garage.
I could also live with the kitchen not being directly adjacent to the garden/terrace.

You don’t know what you want and can’t decide.
Is it your mother or mother-in-law?

Mother – she has even more trouble deciding.
She simply can’t imagine something like that.
And she is less willing to compromise than I am.

Site plan:
It can be established that the property is enclosed by roads on three sides. The west side also looks like a larger street; the east street more like a residential street.

Well, to the west/north is the new development area street / 30 km/h zone.
And to the east there is only a 3-meter-wide pedestrian path.
But three sides would have to be made opaque with fences/hedges.

By the way, I consider the technical room too small in both plans since the washing machine/dryer are planned there as well.

That was intentional. The technical room is meant to serve solely as a heating/building services room.
In the granny flat, the washing machine is meant to go into the bathroom (which was sometimes planned too small).
And in the main house, the washing machine should go upstairs.

I don’t read there that she is a terrace breakfast person, as I wrote earlier, but that she likes the morning sun. And that means: east side!

“We all want sun all day.”
Of course, as a retiree, she is more active during the day; in midsummer she no longer stays in the midday sun but otherwise she indeed worships the sun... and for example
she makes use of every ray of sun in autumn.
Her current house is quite dark with few small windows – that will probably be the reason she now desires the sun (meaning brightness) so much.

That also reminds me:
Because of the neighboring house already built to the south, no sun reaches the property at midday/afternoon in autumn – that worries me a little.
In summer there was only a small shadow there; I also don’t find the view of the house or garage wall bad. You can make that look nice with plants or just turn the other way.
But there are also houses with north-facing gardens that live happily, right?