Floor plan single-family house - Your assessment

  • Erstellt am 2020-10-30 22:01:49

Ysop***

2020-11-02 06:14:22
  • #1
Well, in your first post you write that your limit is 300k including equipment. Even if exterior facilities and site work are not included, the limit is clearly exceeded with the house size. Now you write that "if necessary" more would be possible. Would it be 100-200k more (depending on what you mentally included in the house costs)?

Regarding the floor plan, yes, I find the living room uncomfortable because it is too small and cramped. Overall, I find it unbalanced. The study and children's room are very large at the expense of other rooms (the bedroom is also very cramped). Is the sewing room used so often that it cannot be accommodated in the office?

What kind of cheap basement is that actually and what is the catch? Or what is included in the costs there and what is not?
 

haydee

2020-11-02 08:00:26
  • #2
Then please put your budget on the table. It is so far below your expectations that it is not worth discussing the floor plan.

Regarding your bargain basement, read the fine print and what is not included.
 

11ant

2020-11-02 14:28:45
  • #3

From the floor plan, I only picked out the staircase situation as a conspicuous detail, in the, as always, last dying hope that the hint might open the OP’s eyes to the fact that the planning maturity still leaves much to be desired. Qualitatively, I don’t find the plan as a whole even worth discussing yet. To me, it looks like one of the typical first attempts at doodling a bit on electronic millimeter paper. As so often, it is clear to no one except the drafter how the dimensions of the depicted house came about – worse: here, apparently, the staircase has been lifted from a prefabricated partial basement model and then decorated with it, and above ground the ground floor, which is needed larger than the basement, has been draped around it. The “result” is both too tight and too large at the same time and is therefore not even suitable for the intended initial price offers.

I suspect this prefabricated partial basement (not to be confused with a prefabricated full basement) is a “mini basement” (called a “technical box” by Knecht), as it is specifically offered for property (price) conditions in Stuttgart and Munich. It is an underground house connection room that can optionally also be built over by the house, whereby in the latter case, instead of its own ceiling, the “base plate” of the otherwise “basement-less” house is basically laid on top. In terms of price per square meter, such mini basements are practically prototype Pyrrhic victories. Integrated under a house, they are at best not saving money compared to full basements.
 

ypg

2020-11-02 15:33:38
  • #4
Just like says. Basically, it is something windowless, a room that is buried and sealed off with a single-family house above. For technology. I already find basements off-putting, but such a bunker, I wouldn't want to enter at all. And how is it with forced ventilation? Where does the moist dryer air go then? And having a common room there too, where there are already enough rooms anyway... all such mini rooms in double versions, 3 workplaces, 2 utility rooms, and that's because each room by itself is unsatisfactory. Ok, the study and the children's room are not mini, but somewhere above it says: the rooms are disproportionate to each other.
 

haydee

2020-11-02 15:53:42
  • #5
I don't understand the mini sewing rooms. Nice hobby. But I don't want to hide away there. I want to have space, keep an eye on the child, etc.
 

KlausBautHaus

2020-11-04 22:31:50
  • #6
By "offsets" you mean the corners to the left of the piano and refrigerator, I assume. Those could be easily removed. I’m happy to get concrete hints. Great, thanks. These can be easily changed in size and moved without causing problems with the furniture. In the bathroom, we might choose a flatter window. I moved the entrance to the utility room into the hallway, opposite the other door. This would make the room more accessible and give me more wall space for cabinets in the kitchen. Oh, the mentioned room is still mistakenly labeled "office" on the floor plan. The room is somewhat larger because it’s intended for the following purposes: for guests, as storage for odds and ends, where the children possibly can set up a train without cluttering their rooms, and as a bedroom in old age when the tired bones no longer want to deal with stairs. But it can easily be reduced to eliminate the offset and enlarge the living room. The sewing room should be used occasionally, when madam wants to sew quietly, presumably in the evening when the children are in bed (problem with noise?). One surely doesn’t want children in the room while sewing who might steal needles or mess up things afterwards. Currently, she sews in the office/guest room and it’s already annoying to have to pack the accessories away all the time. Hence the separate small room. Well, about one sixth of the basement is taken up by the stairs. And we do need storage space, especially if the attic option doesn’t pan out. But if one generally isn’t a fan of basements, I understand the objection. You mean I should accept a lower knee wall height in favor of price, right? Good idea, I might do that in a separate thread. Well, I want the knee wall as high as possible. But we’re only allowed one full floor. According to the Lower Saxony Building Code, a clear height of >2.2m in the upper floor may only be present over a maximum of 2/3 of the ground floor area (if the sentence is too complicated, I can gladly quote the original passages). Consequently, I can determine horizontally on each side where the 2.2m clear height is reached. From there, I go with the lowest allowed angle (18°) to the exterior wall and end up with a knee wall of about 1.64m height. The disadvantage is that at this angle, the attic practically doesn’t exist. Hence the idea that the roof could get steeper from the 2.2m point to create an attic. ??? Sorry, I can’t make any sense of that funny sentence. Every single-family house with only one full floor and no excessive airspace has sloped ceilings. And the space under those slopes is “more dead than alive”? I’m attaching a sketch. There’s actually little wondrous about it. I want a gabled roof but mentioned that I’ve occasionally seen hipped roofs of this kind. Really? Over 400,000 for the house could be possible. But this floor plan doesn’t seem particularly “sensible” anyway. I will look again more intensively for proven floor plans. The basement is called TechnoSafe from the company Glatthaar. I got the price info from the builder’s uncle. I can’t say more about it at the moment. We’re planning with controlled residential ventilation, possibly the basement would then be included... Our condensing dryer would go in the ground floor utility room.
 

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