Floor plan feedback: 1.5-storey building in Northern Germany

  • Erstellt am 2023-09-21 20:12:53

roookeee

2023-09-22 00:34:41
  • #1

The white one is the building envelope, the hatched area is not allowed to be built on, yes. I’m attaching the legend again here.

Since the development plan is so old, there are no exact measurements, but the building envelope is approximately (width x depth) 12-13m x 17m, ergo 9-10m x 11m as maximum house dimensions due to 3m distance on the left, top, and bottom. It’s rather at the bottom edge 9 meters, but the building authority has agreed that a little leeway is possible because the parcel was divided so awkwardly. However, we don’t want to bluff or overstretch here, so just a bit over 9 meters at the bay window, which could be omitted if necessary.


We have ideas and wishes in some places that we do not want to give up (e.g. floor-to-ceiling windows upstairs), here I just want to make clear that no big discussion needs to start about this, just as little as about the fact that, for example, we do not want an open kitchen. So it was well meant, we are also willing to make compromises elsewhere or spend more money for these things and can live with the consequences of these strongly formulated points, even if they might turn out negatively for us afterward. In general, we wanted to keep the post short and not elaborate at length on why we want things that way :)
 

ypg

2023-09-22 01:03:26
  • #2
I do not want to discuss, just facts without interpretations and premature conclusions. Thank you.
 

kbt09

2023-09-22 07:25:34
  • #3

Are you sure that the house cannot be rotated? Because I don’t see a south-west roof if I assume that the site plan is oriented to north. That is rather a west roof with a north direction. The north arrow from the floor plans definitely does not match the construction plan drawing. That is also why asked to have the house drawn in the floor plan once. And with the correct north arrow.
 

roookeee

2023-09-22 10:11:04
  • #4
Here first my obligation to provide:

    [*]Basic floor plan from the general contractor in the same tool, we have not received any information about the window dimensions for this floor plan
    [*]Scale-accurate positioning of the house on the plot – sizes derived from the development plan because it is very old



The north arrow is correct, the development plan is not oriented north. I am attaching a highly zoomed out excerpt of the plan again because it is simply huge; there you can also see that it is not oriented north. It is from 1977 and there is no newer one.
 

11ant

2023-09-22 12:38:34
  • #5
The decision about the construction method is regularly rather irrational – so you might as well leave it to your cats *smirk* – then we’ll take the being quite happy as an occasion to let this aspect rest in peace. The perception that architects are essentially lavishly paid floor plan drawers is at best solvable with Fairy Ultra ;-) I see it differently due to my profession, because from a consultancy perspective with a commercial background it looks different. The cases where an architect is not worthwhile are conservatively described as “minority.” But a man’s will is his kingdom, as my grandmother used to say (fun fact: grandma was not at Himmelreich, but Edeka). But if the deal suits you, then that’s okay (to summarize: you only keep the exterior dimensions of a catalog model and may even push the included bay window arbitrarily to the other eave side; if you don’t ask why, the surcharge remains symbolic). Fine, but then I am basically free now for other patients or the golf course. That is not what I meant, at least not anywhere near the top ranks. “Who wants to bake a cake, must have seven things” – not nine or twelve. A good catalog house design primarily has the task of being simple to implement. The floor plan “can be peed in the snow,” and “one size fits Meiermüllerschulze” ensures that the model reaches quantities where potential teething problems of the conception are quickly mastered. “Clean code” means that a program runs the more stable the fewer meanderings the concept’s path takes. A square is a clean form concept, a circle too, just different. A round-licked square is worse than a circle that should never become anything else. Applied to your situation this means: you don’t have two children, but two cats – so you are not Meiermüllerschulzes and are better off taking a square from the catalog and squaring it than a circle. But that’s just for readers in a comparable situation. You, now arrived by the roundabout way, probably wouldn’t sensibly turn back.
 

roookeee

2023-09-22 13:10:23
  • #6

A brief correction regarding the basic floor plan: the room at the bottom right on the ground floor is of course not a utility room (HAR) but a simple, additional room.

Yes, they are built upon, here is a picture (the small garden house is no longer there, it was just a garden until now):
 

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