Floor plan design single-family house approx. 250 sqm with granny flat

Have you ever heard of the ergonomic triangle in the kitchen? I’m starting to not understand at all what you want to do in which kitchen.

I want to use the scullery to quickly get dirty dishes out of sight from the main kitchen (that's why there's a second sink there). Also, the dishwasher is supposed to be located there because unfortunately my husband has the nose of a bloodhound and might want to close a door there against possible “dishwasher smell.” Directly to the right of the door, there should be a fridge-freezer combo because many refrigerators start making noises as they get older, and it’s also practical for defrosting the freezer if it’s on tiles instead of parquet. It’s not yet fully or partially legibly marked on the floor plan because we didn’t want to get lost in 100 details yet in case bigger changes need to be made elsewhere.

Everything else is supposed to happen in the main kitchen. I find the distance between stove - sink - fridge still acceptable with this arrangement. The fridge could certainly be more comfortable somewhere else, but if you want the fridge in a separate room at the same time, I don’t know how else to solve it (but I’m happy to receive suggestions).

OG the route from the children’s room to the bathroom

From our point of view, there are two possible solutions here. Either the children’s room could be moved to the northeast corner and then it would be directly opposite the bathroom. The room has 3 relatively large windows, so hopefully it will be bright enough despite the orientation, but it would still be located above the (one day) rental apartment, which had been viewed critically here before. The office with the bicycle would then come next to the walk-in closet and the other office in the southeast corner.

Alternatively, in an earlier draft, the second bathroom on the upper floor was on the east side above the rental apartment bathroom and thus also directly next to the children’s room. We didn’t like that as much for other reasons, but I can look that up for comparison and post it here.

The strange corner in the children’s room because of the bicycle in the study.

I actually found it quite cozy because it creates a somewhat protected niche for the desk in the children’s room. But if we swap/move rooms again here, it will be replanned anyway.

I miss light in the master bathroom; the shower is right in front of the toilet

The master bathroom could possibly get another window on the north wall. I have to see how we solve it with the shower. The shower will still get a door; it just hasn’t been drawn in yet. From your point of view, is wet feet still problematic because of that? Or do you find the distance overall too tight?

Make it a closed kitchen and, if necessary, a coffee-making counter kitchen unit in the living area.

I find the space between the shower and the toilet too narrow. You are planning a very large house, so tight spots can be avoided. It is not an 80sqm apartment.

Story height: 3050mm
Stair flight 1: 1679 mm = 2320
Stair flight 2: 2682 mm = 2330
Stair flight 3: 2437 mm = 2320
Tread width: 100 mm

Number of steps: 16
Number of risers: 17
Step height: 179 mm
Tread depth: 273 mm
Angle: 33.31 degrees
Blondel law: 631 mm

I will take that as a basis

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I think your risers and treads fit. I just don’t know if the distribution of the stair flights is that good. See the red marked comparison for a story height of 280 cm with one step less. And in comparison, from your staircase, where I see the red area critically. Five to six steps converge sharply in the middle visually. Due to the uneven distribution of the flights. I’m also not a stair builder after all.

Hi, I also want to throw in my two cents. First of all, hats off for the planning. I find the whole thing quite attractive, provided the municipality actually approves the knee wall.

Thank you very much. The municipality and the district office have already approved a knee wall of 2.30m several times, once even 2.39m, so it should work out.

I’ll list what would really bother me:

[*]The chimney including the flue is in the wrong place. On the one hand, it blocks the view and the exit to the terrace – totally stupid. On the other hand, this spindly thing runs up the house wall. That looks awful. Can it not be moved to the right-hand side wall of the living room? Unfortunately, you can’t tell if and how close the walls are to each other.

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So-called "back to back" with the chimney in the living room, there should also be a chimney on the terrace. The two flue pipes are supposed to be concealed together behind a brick facing that looks like a chimney. We have seen this on a house and it looks really good – or at least we like it very much. Unfortunately, I can’t post a picture due to image rights. The chimney still looks ugly in our drawing, I agree, but in the real example it looks much nicer. However, we are not yet sure whether a gas fireplace on the terrace provides enough heat to extend the "terrace season" or if it would just be an "atmosphere fire." We have a consultation scheduled soon with a stove builder about this. If the terrace chimney is to be omitted, we would arrange the flue / chimney for the living room fireplace differently.



[*]I also find the dining room very tight. But you don’t seem to have many guests anyway.



Actually, we regularly have selected guests whom we like very much, but rather no larger groups. The current table is 180x90cm, but as I already said above, I also find the dining area a bit tight and we want to try to enlarge it a bit. Some minor exceedances have already been approved in the floor space ratio or we might have to save space elsewhere.




[*]It feels like the chill area and dining room should be swapped – but I’m not sure.



Sofas in the brightest and sunniest room of the house probably wouldn’t be our thing.




[*]This "bike closet" is just absurd. Why can’t that unit be in the office? That worm-like extension would be gone immediately and what would remain are 2 nice rectangular rooms.



The current bike closet might not yet be the optimal solution, but the bike is not supposed to be in the office. My husband has had varying turbo trainers in the office for well over 10 years and explicitly doesn’t want that anymore. It looks ugly and messy and does not look good in video conferences.




[*]I would move the bedroom door up to the dressing room. That results in a calmer hallway and the clothes don’t immediately jump into your eyes.



We previously had it like that and then changed it because we liked the longer hallway better and we hope the clothes will be in nice built-in wardrobes so that the dressing room looks appealing and is not a nuisance. But maybe that is really too optimistic and we should move the door forward again.




[*]Sliding door in the small office? Why?



Because the door, due to very limited space, should at least not open inward, and we weren’t sure if opening outward into the corridor would be a good idea.




[*]Regarding the granny flat – have you already talked to mom about it? I think it’s okay, but I would probably have other priorities. Does she really need 5 dining seats?



My mother basically likes the granny flat; we haven’t talked specifically about the dining table yet. But I know my mother well enough to know that a reasonably sized table is a must-have for her. Not necessarily just to entertain guests, but also simply in everyday life to have space for papers, flowers, art books, etc.




That brings me to the next point:
[*]The driveway for the granny flat feels like it goes straight through your terrace. I consider that a big disadvantage and it could lead me to throw everything overboard. And if 5 guests came too – well, hallelujah!



I can’t quite understand that right now. Possibly a misunderstanding? I have marked the parking space for the granny flat in the site plan once. The path to the granny flat entrance would then run along the neighbor’s fence. We would possibly plant a privacy screen on the left side towards our terrace.




I am also missing dimensions and preferably the site plan in 2D.



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Finally the question – why don’t you have a pro plan the thing? Did you just want to experiment or are you afraid the architect wouldn’t make an effort?



On the one hand, we wanted to try it ourselves. On the other hand, we don’t really like much of what professionals are currently designing. To some extent, we definitely see the problem of finding someone who would implement the style we have or has already done things in a comparable direction. Unfortunately, Patrick Ahearn and Sebastian Treese are not in our price range.

I'll take this


I think your risers and treads fit. I just don't know if the distribution of the stair flights is that good. See the comparison for a floor height of 280 cm with one step less marked in red. And in comparison from your stairs, where I see the red area critically. 5 to 6 steps that converge sharply in the middle in the eye. Due to the uneven distribution of the flights. I'm also not a staircase builder.

The representation in our drawing is, as mentioned, crap and only serves as a placeholder. The tool doesn't like spiral stairs and unfortunately creates nonsense there. On the sketch from the stair tool, the steps do not converge so tightly in the middle. As I said, I can't post the sketch here for lack of image rights.

Just make a closed kitchen and, if necessary, a coffee-cooking-counter kitchen unit in the living area.

Since I am the one who cooks 90% of the time, I veto that. A closed kitchen would only be an option for me if it were quite large as an open-plan kitchen, but actually I no longer want to stand alone in the kitchen.

I find the space between the shower and toilet too tight. You're planning a very large house, so you can avoid bottlenecks. It's not an 80 sqm apartment.

That's true. We've already changed this bathroom about 20 times in our feeling, but it probably still needs optimization. There's currently a mistake in the floor plan, caused when we made changes to the exterior view (exterior wall in the bathroom in front of the washing machine) – please ignore that for now.

but just because we haven’t replanned everything within <24h, doesn’t mean you have to immediately accuse me of being resistant to advice.

No one here expects that. No one expects you to implement anything at all. You’re not building a house for any of the respondents. You’re building your house the way you like and want it.

But maybe you should take another look at everything, focusing on your own answers. Psychologically trained people would cautiously tell you that the granny flat might be a bit narrow, and you come back with a counter question “really?” and compare it to an old apartment. I mean: the granny flat is no more than 4! Four meters wide.

Do you think the bathrooms are generally too small? We are absolutely not "wellness types" who value a big bathroom oasis or spend hours there, but of course we don’t want to build a relatively large house and then plan bathrooms that are too small.

.. I see it differently when it comes to the bathroom. We have already had a bathroom with almost identical dimensions and it was absolutely okay.

Here too a contradiction and comparison. And yes: it is legitimate to compare.

I asked where exactly you see problem areas, but no answer came.

Exactly. If you approve everything and consider it already had and sufficient, what else is there to explain? There won’t be a part 2 from me, your argument doesn’t anticipate it, and to respond more precisely, dimensions are needed, which don’t come.

I also spare myself time-consuming re-measuring via scaling.

Besides, you have stated that you actually don’t want to change much anymore. Then I no longer harp on the toilet that feels cramped in the shower area, or the bathroom in the granny flat, which I wouldn’t even plan in that size for children.

But I’m totally fine with it and will continue reading.

Edit: I consider the single-story approval granted through the two extensions.