Floor plan design of a single-family house with a 10% south slope. House entrance platform stairs

  • Erstellt am 2025-08-02 23:15:53

MachsSelbst

2025-09-08 15:41:30
  • #1
You’re not seriously carrying the drink crates from the carport past the huge HAR through the hallway, through the dining area, through the kitchen into the pantry, are you? You do that for the first 2 months out of principle, then you lose the motivation and put the stuff in the HAR, where you will build a shelf just for that.
 

ypg

2025-09-08 16:34:38
  • #2
I would neither have accepted the house design from the planner nor would I have presented it here for discussion. As a planner, I would never release something like this!

Because: the living room with 3 meters depth would be a no-go for me – and then it’s so narrow like a corridor. Under 3.50 meters, a nice room layout in a new single-family house is simply not possible. That is accepted in an existing house, but not in a new build.
Secondly, I question this monstrous carport nonsense: why plan two driveways? I mean, building authorities already have a hard time allowing two of those. But how does it look in practice? From the north there is a parking space accessible, from the west as well. The entrance is so crooked that a stretcher can’t be carried in by the emergency services. If they even find the entrance at all. There is also the danger of falling down the stairs or railing yourself.
And the parcel delivery person snakes along next to the carport toward the kitchen window to then squeeze between the car and the house wall? I’d just say: wrong turn taken. The planner, not the parcel delivery person. At least he can knock on the kitchen window ;)
Or does this "access and driveway from two sides" come from you as a template? You were the one constantly talking about guest access, right?

Actually commendable. But where did you catch him? Sorry, but that had to be said.


Is it really supposed to accommodate a child at some point while child 1 has 60% more space? Child 3 is already suffering from the north exposure. I would not have submitted that as a plan!

That’s completely over the top anyway.

Absolutely!

It should also be mentioned that the hallway is very narrow, and on top of that there is no space for a wardrobe, so no closet even for two people. Where should more people store their jackets and shoes? And don’t come with expensive drawers under the stairs. Because the stairs are too far away, and these are not a substitute for a wardrobe, but only a way to store stuff like shoes or accessories. The large hallway is not suitable either.
The stairs block the entrance and do no good to the house, except taking away hallway space. And you can also see upstairs that rooms cannot be planned equally. At the latest, but really the latest, if you hadn’t noticed it at the children’s rooms, the bathroom window already would have needed the rounded shelf because of the bulky carport.
And to come back to my beginning: who wants to cross and slalom from the sofa to the door when the doorbell rings? You inevitably have to get caught on furniture somewhere, dodge or walk around. That’s just not good.
Just a last annoying word, so here’s a mention that the bathroom with 9 sqm for 5 people will also be a battle. Sure, in a pinch it works, but I would not plan a family bathroom like that.
 

Papierturm

2025-09-08 18:19:17
  • #3
Those are harsh words from , but the more I think about it, the more I tend to agree.

(Of course, we do not know here what the planner was primed with beforehand.)

I have been wondering all day why this house plan gets to me so much? Or rather: why can't I come up with an idea in my head on how to improve it?

In doing so, I went back to the house dimensions. 11.11*9.49 is generous in itself. At the same time, it gives the impression that it doesn’t work.

I kept noticing the hallway. The hallway creates a necessity that prevents the rest of the ground floor from functioning. And no matter how much I mentally shift walls there, I can’t make the hallway work.

So I rummaged through my memories. The provider is insolvent, but the house plan can still be found: Gussek Platanenallee.
With similar conditions (including the same front door position) and significantly smaller house dimensions (10.5*9.1; so about 10 m² less on the ground floor without a bay window), suddenly it has everything the design is missing: a spacious living room. Space for a coat rack. A guest bathroom, which could even be expanded with a shower. And even a small office on the ground floor. Downside compared to the presented plan: stairs in the dirty area.

This explicitly does not mean that I consider the Platanenallee floor plan optimal here. I don’t. But it would be a clearly better starting point for the ground floor than the current plan. One could then adapt it to one’s own needs. There are similar floor plans from almost all other house providers with similar dimensions that would be suitable as a starting point.

That also doesn’t mean you have to build with any particular provider. I purposely chose Gussek now simply because Gussek no longer exists. I am not advertising here.

My point is to give an impulse here to cut through the Gordian knot. From my point of view, that is the hallway on the ground floor. With it, you can’t get a really nice ground floor.

The upper floor, in my opinion, suffers from the carport. I wouldn’t plan the carport with everything that comes with it under such a massive roof, unless the development plan allows nothing else. In my opinion, the house should serve people, not the car.
Get rid of the carport, define room requirements (especially important to ensure the children's rooms are reasonably fair). Plan based on that.

PS: With four people at the latest, I would always plan a second shower.
 

Arauki11

2025-09-08 18:55:37
  • #4
I can only agree with on this and would start this planning from scratch immediately. I don't believe that this floor plan can be refined any further or that it would make sense. First of all, I get the impression that the car roofing plays, in my opinion, too big a role. I can't understand how a "planner" can draw such a glued-on block with a large, separate gable there. I find it visually terrible and also unnecessarily expensive due to the building shape and the attached connections to the building. The "hidden" entrance without a real cloakroom would be pitch dark, inside and outside. Then you have to walk curves and have an ultra-narrow passage along the stairs to the guest WC. What I find particularly bad is the living/dining area, which wastes space without being nicely furnished due to these unusual room dimensions. Why does he draw in a fireplace if you don't even want one? Just the way the door situation with the fireplace in the upper floor is drawn would tell me that the planner either didn't put much effort into it or simply can't do better. Either way would lead to the same result for me. I remember our planning, where we initially also had our own ideas regarding gables, etc., which also looked terrible. As soon as you push the garage topic far to the back of the priority list and put living comfort at the forefront, you will also get a better result because your described needs are not really extraordinary. The car issue currently causes you an unpleasant entrance, dark rooms, no cloakroom, and much more; on the other hand, the car enjoys the assigned importance.
 

ypg

2025-09-08 19:09:42
  • #5
Yes, that triggers me a lot too. Only that, through my many years of passion, I have already seen quite a bit. Well, someone has to say it at some point, otherwise the discussion here will only revolve around the carport roof. And that is by far the least of the problems. Because that can be fixed – if necessary, just slap a flat roof on it. I also forgot that the pantry is completely misplaced. It should not have to be walked around. The highlight is the narrow spot between the stair start and that corner there: one meter? Who is supposed to constantly stumble over the first step there? To be honest, I can't see anything, absolutely nothing nice about this design where I would say: "you can start here" or "definitely keep this."
 

hanse987

2025-09-08 23:57:48
  • #6
If you already install such a huge carport, in my opinion you should be able to park two cars in it. Have your planner enter the correct step height for the staircase in your plan, because it is not 18.2cm but 18.5cm, otherwise you will not reach the floor height of 296cm. The step length is 3cm too short to reach the usual 63cm according to the step measure formula. This would result in the staircase being about 0.5m longer.
 

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