Floor plan design of a 170m² passive house with garage

  • Erstellt am 2014-09-03 19:20:29

Manu1976

2014-09-04 14:28:01
  • #1
Ok, there are no children yet, so there are still some things to consider:
Where to put the stroller? Garage?
I would strongly advise planning a door between the hallway and the living area. The noise level from the living area (clattering dishes, conversations, TV...) is too audible upstairs. Not to mention that the staircase upwards acts like a chimney and draws warm air up, so there is always some kind of draft.

From my experience, I can say that the hallway is too small/narrow. If you ever come home with 4 people + possibly a baby car seat + a shopping basket, you will be like us. Before the door can be closed or the last person can enter, the first one has to go into the living room so everyone fits.

You say that the children's rooms are spacious enough. Then I don’t understand why you wouldn’t settle for a 14.5m2 bedroom as well. You only sleep in there. You need a bed + a wardrobe. A teenager LIVES in their bedroom. They receive visitors, study, need a desk, watch TV, maybe eventually have a partner staying over, then the child will want a wider bed, possibly a makeup corner, a large wardrobe (my daughter is 7 and has a 1.5m wardrobe), possibly a place to play music, and so on. It’s possible, sure, but it’s not ideal.
 

ypg

2014-09-04 18:52:04
  • #2


youpy and his wife will/want to enter the house through the utility room - so the problem is thus obsolete ;)
 

Manu1976

2014-09-04 19:25:20
  • #3
Well, I don’t know if it’s very practical when you come back from a walk and first have to go through the garage, through the utility room, through the laundry room, and through the entire living area just to hang your jacket on the hook. Or family gatherings, not to mention children’s birthday parties, then it can feel like a beehive. I also don’t like large halls in the entrance area that have no function, but an appropriate size with a small seating area (a chair is enough, better a small bench so that two people can sit) for putting on shoes would be nice. If I look at my child’s wardrobe here alone – that adds up (vest, jacket, sleeveless vest, loads of shoes, kindergarten bag, school backpack, sports bag...). Yes, now the argument can come again that you can also store all that in the child’s room wardrobe – which brings us back to the size of the child’s room. I’m not talking about things you can do without when you have children, only the absolute essentials. If no children were wanted or they were already teenagers, then the size of the hallway would be fine. What I would also find practical is if the laundry room had a door to the outside. Especially with children and muddy clothes and rubber boots in mind. I doubt that the kids run through the garden through the garage etc. every time to get something to drink from the kitchen. They would probably take the shorter way through the living room. If there was a door in the utility room, the kids could later go in and out there. But as I said, everyone has to decide that for themselves. I don’t want to influence anyone, but I would have been glad if someone had given me this information to consider when building the first house.
 

ypg

2014-09-04 20:12:43
  • #4


I don’t have children, yet I don’t want to know how big my hallway would have to be if my unborn children were like me.
I need everything right in front of my nose downstairs, of course not the winter stuff in summer, but I want to see the 3 summer jackets + x shoes to decide.
The shoe issue continues. Scarves give me trouble, which I actually put on right in the dressing room, or do I not. At the latest downstairs I want to have the selection of scarves and shawls again – I knew why I wanted a bungalow, but I didn’t get it.
Now the dilemma.
For that reason, our coat storage is kept in a storage room. It suffices for 2! Winter stuff is currently kept elsewhere, of course.

There is also no door between the corridor and the living area in our home, so I don’t despair over my shoes constantly being in the way.
And of course I have an armchair in the hallway: how else should I put on some shoes?
My husband is glad that I don’t collect handbags, but of course my one bag must also be ready to hand on a stool.

: You are of course right: with two children it becomes twice as exciting.
Personally, I am not planning any more, but the OP is. So I haven’t considered that aspect.

And I still give the advice to sacrifice a little more living space for family life – she could definitely use an extra meter... and who likes to go through the utility room to get into their house?
 

Manu1976

2014-09-04 20:57:48
  • #5
Hehe, ok, I somehow overlooked the smiley.

You’re like us: we also always have all the jackets and stuff that fit the season hanging downstairs.

Yes, you’re right about the meter. Our little house will also be "only" 9 meters wide, but it’s laid out completely differently, despite having a utility room, a technical room, and a storage room on the ground floor.
 

Jaydee

2014-09-04 21:22:45
  • #6
Now I'm also sending something about the entrance area. I have a small child and 3 stepchildren who are regularly here, so I can also chime in.

When children come, since the garage door is nearby, you can park the stroller there. The baby car seat either stays in the car or, if the child has fallen asleep, will probably be brought straight to the living room.

I find the space for the wardrobe to be sufficient. In our rental apartment, when the children were smaller, we had a 2m-Pax from Ikea. Shoes and jackets definitely fit in there. The utility room is also just around the corner, so there would be plenty of space for "alternative clothing" there.

Children are not small forever, and I find planning a huge wardrobe in a house to cover all eventualities exaggerated. My son is now (almost) 6 and he doesn't need as much space as I do.

I also find 14.5 sqm sufficient. Our son often still plays downstairs with us or outside. Even if he plays upstairs with his friends, they manage fine. His room has a floor space of 13.5 sqm and is unfortunately rather narrow. Rooms that are fairly square-shaped are much easier to furnish.
 

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