Many rooms on the ground floor

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11ant

2017-04-09 02:10:54
  • #1
I only see the floor plan of the ground floor (EG) (?)

I have rotated the plot accordingly below:

Calculating, based on the measurements in your sketch and this image comparison, I have the impression that the house extends beyond the building window on the garden side.

Which house manufacturer "is hidden" behind the dimensions and wall thicknesses of your floor plan?
 

Anitra

2017-04-09 06:59:35
  • #2
Hello 11ant,
thank you very much for your visualization. I have always wanted to see something like this, but didn’t know how to do it. As the plan is, it would actually protrude.
A*** house has put my sketch of the ground floor with rough wall dimensions into pure form. The garage would rightly not be 9m long but only 7.5 to 8m in this design. Then the house would again be completely within the building envelope and the garage still within the intended area. I should have mentioned that right away, sorry.
The utility room additionally below the kitchen, practically in the garage, will only be possible if we get an exception permit and the garage may be closer to the green strip/street.

There was apparently a misunderstanding in A*** house’s planning of the upper floor. In the first draft now available to me, there are three dance halls at the top of the plan on the upper floor, each with 22.5 sqm, but the bathroom was forgotten. That’s why I originally didn’t upload it. However, I am attaching it now anyway.

I am still unsure whether the kitchen area on the ground floor will be two-story or possibly only one-story. I definitely want the washing machine and dryer with plenty of space to sort the dirty laundry on the ground floor. I would also find the buffer storage tank more sensible on the ground floor. However, I don’t know whether, according to our room program, utility room and technical equipment can be completely sensibly accommodated on the ground floor.

If no technical rooms are needed on the upper floor, I can roughly imagine such an arrangement for the upper floor (here, for example, the kitchen would be only one-story). I find it a pity to have the corridor open on both sides upstairs and would therefore like to create an additional small room on one of the two sides.
 

Maria16

2017-04-09 08:15:51
  • #3
Good morning! Is it not possible to have any door in the 1.6 m space in front of the stairs? Or just no door that opens into the hallway?

Would it be an option to access the utility room through a door under the stairs? That would also create wall space in the vestibule, so that maybe just by moving the front door alone, you could already get enough space (in then opposite corners).

I am not sure if the bathroom on the ground floor is actually barrier-free? I thought you would need more space in front of and beside the toilet? (Distance to the wall and bathtub) Also with the bathtub and shower, I could imagine that depending on the disability, more space might be needed? In the disability facility that I visit from time to time, at least the bathtub is accessible all around.

I can understand that you want to give your daughter a lot of space in her room. You have not written (and do not have to) anything else about her disability and how it will affect her. Maybe 15 sqm for her room is not even necessary if she prefers to spend time in company and thus in the living area. Therefore, I would consider whether the children's room could also be sensibly and barrier-free usable with less square meters and possibly give a few more centimeters to the bathroom instead.

And also with the kitchen, I am not sure if this solution with practically two rows can be well implemented wheelchair-accessibly – regardless of whether your daughter should ever be able to use the kitchen herself or if she just wants to get involved “in the action” out of curiosity.
 

Anitra

2017-04-09 10:52:15
  • #4
Good morning Maria,

correct, the bathroom as drawn is not wheelchair accessible. I would also prefer it to be a bit larger, but with a sensible arrangement it will certainly be very usable in daily life. One possible arrangement would be: rotate the bathtub and push it against the wall at the top of the plan. The sink would then be at the bottom left of the plan. This would leave plenty of space next to the toilet. The shower will be larger (1.5m x 1.5m) and tiled flush with the floor. In front of the bathtub you can then also use the shower space, for example for repositioning using a mobile lift. A proper care bathtub is incredibly expensive. Therefore, it will be an under-ridable tub. If the tub is accessible from both a short and a long side, it should be possible to wash well. For such a large bathroom to accommodate a freestanding tub we overall lack the space. The floor area of the house is already very large. But maybe the bathroom will still be bigger.

I would rather not make the children’s room smaller. A care bed (with safety rails) will be installed. These always look quite bulky. In addition, the mobile lift will be kept there in daily life. A standing frame and therapy chair also need space. A large mat for lying on the floor should go either in the children’s room or the living room. Or maybe in both?

Perhaps 1.40m in front of the stairs will be enough. However, the flatter the stairs, the more space the lift needs to come down to the floor while maintaining the same slope. At the bottom are the platform and the ramps all around, so that you can drive onto the lift on the one hand. During the ride the ramps are then folded up and serve as protection so that you cannot roll off. A door in that area won’t work. You could only pass through if the lift is currently on the upper floor.

I don’t think the access to the technical/utility room under the stairs will work because, in my opinion, the stairs are drawn too short. To be able to put a built-in closet next to the garage as in Yvonne’s suggestion, the stairs would also have to extend as far as possible toward the bathroom. Then the clearance height under the stairs to the technical room would probably be too low, right? Does anyone know? Unfortunately, I have no idea about stairs but I thought it would be at least 4m long. It would of course be super practical not to have a door in the entrance area’s vestibule.
The advantage of moving both the front door and the vestibule door by the same amount is that you wouldn’t have to make a zigzag course. By the way, I’m considering a recessed dirt mat in the floor in the entrance area.

The idea behind the two-liner here is that the passage between the dining table and the kitchen should be wide enough to serve as access to the terrace with the wheelchair. When my daughter is parked at the short side of the peninsula, I believe she will be fully involved in what’s going on. A U-shaped kitchen would not work well with this floor plan. For independent kitchen use it wouldn’t be suitable, but it is to be expected that she will never be able to cook or prepare food herself.
 

ypg

2017-04-09 11:08:10
  • #5
I would do without a utility room in the garage as an airlock. You can do laundry upstairs and accommodate the building services there, on the ground floor you have a utility room which can even be a bit smaller if necessary. I would enlarge the bedrooms with bathrooms a bit so that your daughter gets a bigger one and add a door to the living room (for short distances and proximity). The stairs can also turn upstairs, that should work with an elevator?

Best regards in brief
 

11ant

2017-04-09 17:14:08
  • #6
The spatial program (and its distribution across the floors) must be clarified. Otherwise, you end up with a plan with mismatched areas that won’t fit even after remodeling. So first clarify what goes where; then arrange the areas accordingly.

By the way, at the entrance I only see the ramp or two steps - but without any indication of how the levels of the ground floor rooms, terrain, and garage relate to each other.

The staircase should be able to be structurally separated from the hallway if the upper floor is to be rentable separately later. Considering the total area, that would be appropriate.
 

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