Floor plan 3 children's bedrooms single-family house - potentials?

  • Erstellt am 2023-11-21 21:34:02

kbt09

2023-11-22 18:28:03
  • #1
Great that you are sharing these insights here. It is indeed the main workspace, what is between the sink and the cooktop. Kind of a mantra in the other forum :cool:
 

patalmtt

2023-11-22 18:36:06
  • #2
Brief feedback.

    [*]Working through the threads will keep us busy for a while. Thanks for the tips! Fertighauswelt, new development areas, and Google (for hours) are of course also being used. There have also been similar floor plans, but none have really clicked enough for us to adopt them 1:1.
    [*]The garage may be located outside the building window, e.g., in the marked red rectangle. However, it can also be inside the building window. The plot is not tiny, and the neighbor already has a garage/carport there. Therefore, we would like to place the garage there and not block the west side with a garage rear wall view.
    [*]Of course, we do not want to replace architects but want to approach the architects/draftsmen with clear ideas as far as possible. We do not want to submit a hand sketch for implementation.
    [*]Construction costs: Currently, the predominant feedback we have is that the EH40 subsidy with sustainability class probably would not be worthwhile, or rather, the additional costs would largely consume the subsidy. Also, we probably are not allowed to heat with wood, which we do not like. Turnkey was the initial indication from the general contractor at about €550/m^3 of enclosed space for the EH55. However, we are still looking around; that was probably not a bargain.
    [*]We have various craftsmen in the family and aim to contract some trades individually. We will plan more precisely once we have fixed a floor plan. In the worst case, the floor plan will have to be reconsidered.
    [*]A basement should be included if affordable, and we do not yet have a detailed floor plan for it (we are quite flexible here). The basement stairs should generally come out in the ground floor under the stairs between the ground floor and upper floor.

We will provide information when we have news.
 

Tolentino

2023-11-22 18:39:04
  • #3


Yes, that was theoretically clear to me as well. I just thought that the surfaces of the dead corner of about 60x65 and an 80 cm base cabinet with countertop would be sufficient. Even during the cooktop installation, I briefly considered shifting one more cabinet, but 220 cm somehow seemed too much.
I only didn’t consider two things:
1. That every free surface will be misused as a storage space.
2. That the surface of the dead corner would automatically be used for kitchen appliances (kettle, air fryer) due to the outlets positioned on the wall there. So a strategic mistake on my part. - Well, whatever.
 

kbt09

2023-11-22 19:10:43
  • #4
Exactly, although 220 cm can already be quite a lot if the sink/cooktop are in one row. More consistent would be about 100 to 120 cm and all possible appliances outside of these 100 to 120 cm. That also makes the distances better.
 

ypg

2023-11-22 22:40:11
  • #5
So, apparently nothing is going as it could.
Firstly, the completed questionnaire is missing. Without knowing why, how, and what for, one cannot be constructive.
Furthermore: what are the dimensions of the plot? How large is the building area?

Is the building area sufficient for 12 x 11?

12 x 11 plus garage?
Just because there is a neighbor’s carport there, the garage would very likely still have to be 5 meters from the street according to the development plan (are there any infos in this regard?). I advise you to consider the parking space/garage as secondary.


Oops. That sounds really like a bargain or a complete miscalculation. If you plan 180 sqm on two levels, that’s about 550 cubic meters. Times 550€ that’s almost 300,000€. Nowadays people calculate by sqm, and then 180sqm/3000€ 540,000€ plus additional construction costs!
What on earth did the general contractor calculate? And no, I certainly don’t want to upset you.

Insofar... what was the budget again only for the house excluding additional construction costs? Is there actually still room for a basement?

You are forgetting that a basement is planned. Nevertheless: maybe it would be better to continue chatting about your house in your own thread before one here forgets that the original poster has a completely different concern, namely a general contractor who estimated costs at half the price and who wants a self-created design.

Then a general contractor is out anyway. Then you go to an architect who recommends a construction company.

Why? Architects actually have creative ideas, which we don’t even dream of at night—if you let them. If you come to a trained professional with demands and a plan, you can also get a rejection, which is mentally possible despite a final drawing. As a result, a house will be built that may be full of bottlenecks.

As already said: wrong approach.
Therefore, I hope that some feedback will still come, the general contractor will be set straight, Tolentino’s experiences in his own thread will be read further, you fill out the questionnaire again and submit the dimensions of the building area, also find an architect who tells you the costs according to sqm, then that you get to know what turnkey really means and what other costs generally come up. Because money probably also has to be talked about here at some point.
 

11ant

2023-11-22 23:15:14
  • #6

Get rid of calling architect and draftsman in the same breath right away. The flight attendant is not a pilot. Only go to the architect with a list of needs and wishes. A draftsman is their assistant, whom you will not deal with during the planning at all.

See also "With or without basement: a rule as a decision-making tool" and "Your answer to the basement question". Give the word of the plot great importance. Don’t build yourself a basement as a dumping ground; you can’t save as much with personal effort and family-friendship prices as it costs.

“GU minus” is the worst path; better choose the finish level “weatherproof shell.” Individual contracts, self-awarded contracts, and man-hour billing are the keywords for searching the forum to read warnings about own-goals. Let the architect make a proper tender, in which buddies and relatives can normally bid.

Better not, that would be about 210 sqm; family has to my knowledge only about 10.75 x 11 (that would be about 190).
 

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