Hello everyone,
thanks again for your input
Yes, that is really a significant change from before. Is there a tried and tested basic model that the plan is based on?
The office is gone now?
Why is the washbasin so far in front of the wall?
Hi 11ant,
-no, this time we have no basic model. Just started on our own.
-Yes, we wanted to use the office as a study and possibly later for old age and/or for parents beforehand. But since it is simply too small, we will skip it for now. We have two children’s rooms upstairs. Since there are no children yet, I will use one as an office. If we really can’t go upstairs anymore in old age, the living/dining area will simply be reduced. We think that when that time comes, one won’t need such a large living and dining area anymore
- The washbasin was just removed to see the square meters
I see a structural problem.
The width of the lower part of the plan suggests that you are undervaluing these rooms.
A vestibule should offer space for entry, welcoming and farewells for guests. Let me guess: 1.80m width?
That’s not enough. I also don’t see a CLOSET for weather clothing for 4 people.
You have to like the fact that you can see directly from the couch into the utility room. Where did the office necessary for home office go?
The hall is difficult to furnish in terms of kitchen. The upper right corner of the plan could theoretically be eliminated
Upstairs the hallway seems very narrow. The bedroom/dressing area combines all errors you can make there. (tedious walking around the wall to reach clothes, disturbing the sleeping partner if wake-up times differ.)
Measurements! Measurements! Measurements! They are missing. Please measure some important reference walls in the house.
Moving the central wall by 50/100cm and shifting the kitchen to upper left could improve the situation, but it would be a daring design for a family with children
Regards, Yvonne
Hi Yvonne,
thanks for the note, we made the shower/WC smaller and inserted an open small cloak area. Through the double-leaf glass door we don’t expect a cramped feeling in the entrance area.
Hmm you can’t just look directly into the utility room?!
Utility room lower right of the plan – couch area upper left of the plan
Yes, on the top right around the corner there should be a terrace, so having some space for the terrace window is not bad. Any idea how we could get even more out of the kitchen?
We have no problem continuing to sleep through We had first thought about keeping a passage open at the front door, but then you just see the closet walls. We like it like this.
How wide should the hallway upstairs be? Measurements will follow from the current floor plan.
The kitchen is currently on the right side of the plan.
Where will the house technology go?
Regards, Yvonne
Into the utility room lower right.
I lack the time to draw right now, so just wrote a direction note into your plan: change the stairs into an L-shape, keeping the exit; then move the front door and put the guest WC next to the utility room/pantry – probably partly by moving the partition walls.
The garage flush with the house lines at front and back can be used design-wise with some skill – but with a flat roof it will look better to shift it. For example, bring it forward into alignment with a front door canopy.
Hi 11ant,
I will test the idea right away in the program. Actually, we prefer a half-landing staircase. We have already moved away from the straight staircase if we want the entrance on the long side.
Life plans are different. Nonetheless, I notice something. There is a lack of closet space and room. Don’t you have any books? No good dishes for festive occasions? In this huge living room you absolutely need more closet space, which means less windows. Structurally, the room will probably have to be divided with a concrete lintel or something like a half wall, otherwise it won’t hold. The kitchen island is Tim Mälzer style, but that’s expensive and realistically just brings cooking fumes into the living room, since a really effective exhaust hood is not possible. You have to want that. The guest WC can be smaller, the hall bigger. Upstairs at the dressing room I just say if you do without it, you have a wonderfully airy bedroom. What is the practical reason for such a small room? The kids’ rooms are okay. If the kitchen is really supposed to stay there, you could knock off the upper right corner of the living room, as the terrace door comes in diagonally, you get a nice sheltered outdoor seat and have an eye-catcher that costs neither much money nor space. Since the house does not shine with storage space for four, the utility room must be bigger in my opinion. It has to fit technology, a sink or mop basin, washing machine, freezer, possibly dryer if you don’t prefer a clothesline. Also needed is space for dirty shoes, room for work gear, the garden overall and so on, so a kind of closet must fit. That is possible but at the expense of the living kitchen. There is no free lunch. Karsten
PS. One more thing. The utility room should also have a door from outside. That’s practical.
Hi Karsten,
we currently live in a 60 sqm apartment and are otherwise relatively minimalist. Knowing that with child(ren) we will need more storage than we currently have, we hope an attic, extended garage, small storage room under the stairs, and currently 7m wardrobe in the bedroom will be enough.
Now a few measurements (always plan length x plan width) in the plan and a small change in the entrance area.
- Entrance area: 1.76m x 3.36m
- Utility room: 1.81m x 4.01m
- Shower/WC: 1.73m x 1.99m
- Kitchen/Living/Dining: 5.72m (right side), 9.66m width, 3.76m (left side)
Upstairs
- Hall width: 1.09m
- Interior wall bedroom 3m
- Bedroom 3.74m x 5.91m
- Children’s room upper right 4.32m x 3.60m
- Children’s room lower right 3.17m x 4.66m
