Estimate of construction costs for a single-family house in the Tübingen area

In family there is actually no such thing as "sitting too close together" - especially with those aunts and uncles, grandmas and grandpas who live hundreds of kilometers away from the core of the clan. Therefore, I would put a big question mark behind designing the living room size based on a century flood coffee table.

Is there a definition of this normal family? We are currently 2 adults, 1 child with the wish for 2K. But it's about needs.

The customer avatar of the catalog house designers is a couple living in a marital (or marital-like) community with a shared bedroom, where the total number of full and partial custody children living in the household is a maximum of "2", a dog is assumed to be non-existent or only poodle-sized; furthermore, it is assumed that all household members are fully mobile "pedestrians." And of course, as with the VW Golf, all adults are "90%-" women or men, i.e. only ten percent of adults (Central Europeans) are either shorter or taller. So basically the same users who owe tables with non-height-adjustable legs a height of 72 cm. Late mothers with triplets after fertility treatment have to share the drawer "special wishes" with maniacs of home automation. The space requirement is assumed to be fully manageable above ground, except for a technical room which, in case of a basement, is renamed "office." To avoid putting the customers under "Mother’s Cross" pressure, the room for the second child is by default called "guest," but according to the popular trend of equality mania it is the same size as the room called "Child (1)." The equality mania is indeed a peculiarity of those (expectant) parents for whom only K1 is planned latently or already reality during the building wish phase. In my entire childhood circle of friends, it was standard in two-child families that the age difference was between one and one and a half years, and the older and the younger sibling agreed to perceive any equality not as "fair", but as "unfair." Parents for whom the plural of child is already reality (and who are not identical twins) are cured of this equality nonsense in no time at all.

Yes! I do understand "Your rules," but I also know your complicated language. For others, it might be the case that they give up the effort to read the texts. You have to speak for the recipient, not for yourself.

Oh, if you only knew what was in the manuscript before the expert wiped it damp. In some places I could "assert myself" and my five-line sentences remained. My lawyer knows that too. I always want to include authenticity for the readers who know me in return, and for that, I don’t speak in three-word sentences.

No, that shrinks a project to a normal size. If it destroys the project, it was already too expensive before.

Exactly, if an interest rate fluctuation is a stress test for a building dream, then "the eyes were once again bigger than the mouth." You can always tile the technical room yourself (in a remaining-stock decor), and even a (non-motorized) swing gate instead of a sectional gate is not the end of the world. Or ...

Great if you have a separate playroom each for the train set, drum kit and/or piano

... if there can only be the piano and the zigzag wall becomes "flat," hehe.

and erase the completely unnecessary, apparently trendy "T" from your mind.

The T-bathroom was invented anyway only to kill the surplus area of the ballroom bath in the substitute villa.

You may do it that way, but "everyone" certainly does not.

That is true, and that is precisely the beauty of everyone being able to be in their own area.

At family celebrations, we are also 15 to 20 people (adult children with family, siblings, parents). There are also older people present; no one would accept standing tables there. The house is designed so that there is space between the dining table and the living room. The grandchildren use that space to play, and during celebrations a longer table is set up there.

A standing table does not have to be mandatory, but in a house there are plenty of other options to create seating. Whether someone "accepts" my offer in the house would not be my expectation at all, but with us (and in an ordinary single-family home) everyone finds a suitable seat and, for example, grandma a particularly comfortable one where she can also retreat to a room (e.g., the children's room or multipurpose room). I would rather see an age-related need for a second bathroom on the floor, but even that would be excessive in a normal single-family home.

There are no inns here in our village either, and the older people or the small kids might want to lie down in between or in the evening.

The guests also have to drive to you / be driven to you, so they could also go to an inn in the nearby area. However, I understand well and also prefer to handle it that way, that a celebration is preferably held at home because it is more comfortable there. As I said, we have a different approach here, which is conducive to the opinion-finding of the OP, because I would not adapt my living space for a few moments a year that is constantly changing anyway. In that respect, it would never be truly fitting.

Everyone

No one

You already see for yourself that this Everyone stands for something that your No one stands for?! Why should "no one" accept a standing table? So out of 15 people of every age group, there will be no one who stands at a standing table? And within the family, is it expected that if you live somewhere, you maintain a living room where a table fits "all"? Crazy society, I would have abolished it in time if I had such a thing or if I become like that myself, it would not surprise me.

When

adult children with family, siblings, parents

are invited, then everyone should be able to find their place. Older people can sit wherever they want or best can, everyone else adapts. The times when children were tied to a table "You stay seated as long as the great-aunt is seated" are fortunately over. Those who need it can do it that way. I don’t want to bore anyone here with how we celebrate or invite because it is also not relevant to the matter, but everyone came to a successful celebration where they did not get sore feet, back pain, or a sore bottom. But if I look at all the celebrations or invitations in the last decade, whether relatives or friends, the children always drifted away (no matter if 3 or 13), many guests like to stand, everything rotates and is in flow. And those who have to or want to sit, for whatever reason, also have their chair, sofa, or bench. Nothing is arranged or planned extensively. Our daughter often has over 20 people at her place. Yes, they have space for a 2.40m table, both inside and outside. The extended family by marriage is very large, there are generally already over 20 people showing up. But they spread out loosely, rather a cake buffet, because a table with cake on it is not possible. But no one twists themselves because something must be. You adapt, whether host or guest, rather to the situation than complicate it. And has already said a lot of truth. And he is even more senior here. One can recognize maturity in him, which also suits a young person very well.

You simply can’t build only for contingencies or rare occasions when the property and money are limited.

To examine needs precisely, especially regarding costs.

That’s right.

Yes, children need space. But honestly, nowadays they no longer need a big room. Generally speaking: under 7 they play all over the house anyway. Many parents nowadays have great tolerance for that. This is also the case here with the OP. Then there is the garden, which can be used in dry weather all year round. Or the residential street. When they want to withdraw at some point, from about 10 years old, they sit on the bed or the floor and not on a sofa. Or they game on PC, phone, or watch TV. Playing at the table is rather in a small group at the dining table. Older than that, they often like meeting somewhere else. The main thing is somewhere else. A friend or girlfriend as an overnight guest always has space on the nearby or own mattress, the first boyfriend or girlfriend lies with body contact in bed. Also during the day. They need the least space.

Exceptions always prove the rule. However, they should always be given appropriate space for free development in a house or apartment, as far as possible.

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For me, you’re somehow putting the cart before the horse.

I can agree with that.

We have facts here:

- House + basement + single garage = max. 430,000 including own work on interior finishing (floors, painting, etc.)

Plot is approx. 19 x 22

so these were basically the things that are important to us:

and then come fundamental wishes that nearly all inflate a house in terms of space.

- Garden oriented so that you can enjoy the evening sun, no midday sun.
That’s still doable if you orient the house to the west.

- Parking important because there are no parking spaces on the street (3 cars must find space)
Still doable with an enclosed parking space.

- An open kitchen with pantry with lots of storage (small freezer, drink shelves, etc.)
Pantry is already more difficult. Look, for example, at the (affordable) Lichthaus 152, which has enough sqm on the ground floor. Pantry under the stairs would be a possibility; freezer fits only conditionally. Storage space also little. But the house already has no wardrobe. Where to put that? It was not mentioned, so is it not needed? The freezer room is tiny as well.

- It is important to us that the living area is as open as possible to keep an eye on the little rascals and conveys a lot of freedom feeling
Openness saves space, very good.

- A living-dining area that is long enough so that a table with about 16 people fits (approx. 5 times a year)
A large dining table would be possible; whether 16 people fit is questionable?

- A guest room on the ground floor that can be set up as a bedroom in old age, normal 180x200 bed and a “classic ”. Initially serves as a home office or if grandma and grandpa come on weekends and would sleep here.
Office with sofa bed works. The all-rounder, also providing for old age, rather not.

- A shower bathroom on the ground floor that is easily accessible but does not have to be barrier-free. Preferably close to the guest room.
Minus. Where to put the shower? Nipping from the freezer room, which is already tiny for today's technology?

- Size of children’s rooms is important to us so they can also pursue their hobbies, and both must be the same size.
What hobbies do they have? Vaulting? Soccer? Reading? Playing with dolls or cars?

- Bedroom size has no priority and can benefit the children. However, parents should be spatially separated from child 1 and 2.
Spatial separation with a standard single-family house this size is hard to realize.

- A large walk-in closet is not necessary, nice to have, but then with a window.
Good, not necessary.

- No floor-to-ceiling windows in the bedrooms (heat protection).
Can be arranged.

- The staircase should not be too steep; a landing is important; I am clumsy and like pictures etc. in the stairwell.
Then I would say, as a klutz, you should give up the pictures in the stairwell with the space-saving staircase.

- Acoustic separation of living room to upper floor is mandatory. So staircase enclosed with a door to the living area.
This can be done but rather limits the table.

- Dirty area must be absolutely separated from normal walking paths.
Absolutely!

- The bathroom upstairs should have a T shower-WC combo and a skylight / if 2 VG above the tub (bathing is important to us)
T is not.

- Niche in the hallway for towels and such?

- I would like somewhere an area where I can do boxing (punching bag, a weight bench, a bit of space for skipping rope). Should not disturb anyone acoustically—can be behind the garage or something else?
Good idea: outside!

- Storage for bicycles, Bobby cars, suitcases, and all the bulky stuff you have with max. 2 children. But we don’t want to carry this stuff upstairs to the attic.
Carriage in the garage/garden shed. However, the Lichthaus 152 at least still has an additional room upstairs. You can just fill it up. But then you must not argue for as much space as possible for the children's rooms.

- Little stairs to run for laundry is better; even better if laundry basket and washing machine are directly in the bathroom.
You can stuff the bathroom full as well. Ideally, the running washing machine would be next to the full bathroom.

I hope you used today to look at construction sites or one or more show houses. Maybe your eyes will open a bit how Spartan other people’s wishes are.
Although I have mentioned the Lichthaus 152 several times, beware: it also has its downsides that you don’t recognize at first glance as a beginner. Personally, I would not recommend it now, but it at least covers quite a bit of your wishes.

May I ask how you currently live?

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I forgot to mention: the "one-and-a-half-story" models from nationwide providers are designed so that the attic in the two-thirds federal states fully utilizes the possible knee wall height, which still does not count as a full story. If you build in a three-quarters federal state, you might be interested in increasing the knee wall height. But be careful: there is also a post on "Bauen jetzt" ("How the knee wall influences the window issue in the attic"), because the knee wall is also a dividing point for windows. With regard to avoiding a full story, it may also be necessary to recalculate whether a captain's gable (which distinguishes the Flair 113 from the 110) can be added.

Since the question already came up here, I think from 11ant:
Of course you may - 3 rooms 75sqm with a large garden. However, it annoys us extremely, for example, that the children's room is so small with changing table and bed and wardrobe, no space to play. Living room very small, where no 4 adults and 3 children can play.
Constantly walking through the dirty area really gets on my nerves.

The kitchen is open and fine. Next to the kitchen we have a pantry with space for the washing machine. Having the laundry on one level is brilliant and we wouldn't want to miss it.

The hallway is wide enough for a chest of drawers and the occasional bench.

Floor-to-ceiling terrace doors in all rooms - sounded cool at first but now annoy in the children's room because they are unsafe, dirty and it gets very warm there.
Of course, one room is still missing - but yes, we could of course simply buy a bigger apartment - but I don’t see why I should buy a nice new-build apartment for >680,000 without additional purchase costs.
Besides the financial issue which naturally plays a role
What also annoys me extremely is not being free, there is always a neighbor who stinks up the apartment with his smoke or drills or whatever.
In the second home my parents have a house and when we are there you feel the strong gain of freedom coupled with a large living and dining area and a beautiful terrace.

A restaurant with 15-20 people you first have to be able to afford, it can quickly become four digits.

Yes, a house offers many freedoms, but also limitations and risks. You pay for the broken heating all by yourself, not the housing community or the landlord. Where reserves are mandatorily formed through the housegeld or rent, the homeowner is solely responsible. Many do not build up the reserves.

And unless you have the money to hire people for everything and don’t just cover everything with gravel and concrete to be "maintenance-free", such a house with a garden is also quite a lot of work. Even if you have it done and then only maintain it.