Estimate of construction costs for a single-family house in the Tübingen area

  • Erstellt am 2025-04-02 21:54:41

ypg

2025-04-06 13:24:22
  • #1
Then let's start: how expensive is the land? Google tells me €450/sqm €187,650 And then subtract the ancillary purchase costs. Google tells me 7% Ancillary purchase costs = €13,200 So €201,000. €680,000 - €201,000 = €479,000 €39,000 for additional construction costs + €10,000 for materials for outdoor facilities (planned as own work) leave €430,000 for the house. The regional search for an affordable general contractor or indeed the Lichthaus 152 from €340,000 makes it possible. Add €50,000 to the catalogue price for necessary extras as well as equipment, then you are at €390,000. That leaves €40,000 as a buffer. Possibly you will keep some euros of that, so you can have the paving work done and a carport including a storage room for the children’s vehicles remains. In the next few years you won't need a punching bag or a weight bench at least, because the tasks on the house are up to you or you alone, with your 37 years you should be able to handle a lot. You can even join the local sports club there – there are usually some craftsmen with whom you can make friends. Kitchen and lamps can rarely be financed and should be saved for in the coming months. Next I would check the €680,000 to see if anything is still possible there or if it was calculated too tightly. There is a subforum here with a questionnaire for that.
 

D-Zug88

2025-04-06 14:59:48
  • #2
One thing I still have to mention here: I am skilled in handiwork and can and plan to handle quite a bit myself (fencing, terrace, floors in the rooms, a buddy is a painter, another one lays tiles), I agree with you on that – but I am also very busy professionally and there should also be time for the family. Of course, during the construction phase, dad has to put in a lot of work and will do so, and yes, not everything has to be finished immediately. However, I calculate very conservatively in the sense that having something is better than needing it, although how conservative is right in order not to under-plan the house.

I’m not entirely sure what I’m supposed to take from Lichthaus – Town & Country is rather middle/lower segment when it comes to building substance and quality, right?

What would rather help us is to have 4, 5, or 6 good construction companies within our budget for a solid building, which provide good building substance, work with regional or good subcontractors, correct mistakes if any occur, have a decent financial cushion, and present a serious planning. Oh yes, they should have several years of construction experience and provide a proper warranty. I won’t save on these points, then the house will just be “a bit smaller.” It all starts with the budget and the points just mentioned. I don’t have money for a free planning if in the end it’s just a standard house with slight modifications anyway (okay fine, but then please with a proper overall package – one person, one contact, someone who keeps everything properly together and no 100 construction-side posts).

Köhler (already had two appointments, we are at 3500 per sqm with basement, but the conversation was absolutely top-notch and I therefore still see potential with him. He also gave me some tips on what to pay attention to in the further process, etc.)

Häuser? (I liked the concept somehow already two years ago, appointment is planned for May)
Heinz von Heiden? (Bad “press”)
Viebrockhaus? (Unknown)
A stone house? (Unknown)
Fermo? (Probably too expensive)
Lechner? (Unknown)
Speidel (out, apparently little “all from one source”)
Kern-Haus (out, I don’t want drywall as non-loadbearing)
U-Haus (unknown)
Keitel-Haus? (Unknown)
Talbau Haus? (Unknown)
Town & Country (sounds to me like a solid version of Massa Haus and Living Haus)

That’s all I know.


Sorry, I mistyped with Köhler, it was more, but I think it doesn’t matter because too many data are missing to draw conclusions from it.



I would simply like to know concretely what the ancillary construction costs really are, this item causes us to arrive at a new possible house price every day.

Sure, moves don’t cost 2,000€, but I’d rather include them (again such a "conservative" buffer). We don’t need a new high-gloss kitchen with damper drawer systems and flux capacitor... it can certainly be a normal kitchen, and yes, even a used one will do! Here, I also prefer to calculate conservatively with the worst case.

We do this everywhere, and in the end, an amount x comes out from which I subtract from the possible 680. That results in the house. And it’s getting tighter and tighter because many conservative items are included.
 

nordanney

2025-04-06 15:38:25
  • #3
And please always plan a buffer of 10% of the construction costs. Just for safety. Something unplanned always comes up.
 

D-Zug88

2025-04-06 15:45:12
  • #4
What specific costs are you referring to - also the possible house price? Or rather to the incidental construction costs?
 

nordanney

2025-04-06 15:52:19
  • #5
Only on the construction costs. Without additional costs etc.

It is even mandatory for our commercial clients. No financing without a buffer.
And for private individuals, it is only recommended.
 

Arauki11

2025-04-06 18:02:58
  • #6

That’s already great and doing it together with friends makes it even more fun. If you can actually do the tiling yourself, that’s a considerable saving and you might also be able to realize special things. Often it’s enough just to know someone like that in the background and be able to contact them.

Work has to be done, because it pays for your house. Family will certainly often have to take a back seat, but working together with your wife makes sense and is fun; we always did it that way while our consistently young neighbors asked us why we didn’t have it done.
Those who are not willing to do that should, in my opinion, keep their hands off building a house or have a correspondingly large budget. We already had a child during the first build. It was not possible otherwise because we wanted the house; that was part of the price.

What I just happened to have read: Storage is nice but financially not advisable, so better leave it out or do it later.

Finding the "right" construction company is not easy. I don’t know Town & Country personally but I believe they build just as good houses as others do. They use the same materials, have good or less good employees, like other companies as well. The problem lies in the fittings and whether you will be satisfied with them. Beyond a certain upgrade level, it probably doesn’t make sense with them anymore. Ultimately, you have to check the respective construction performance description, that’s your bible, carefully.
So far, you calculate with around €3000 per sqm plus additional costs and from that you can roughly estimate whether it financially fits you.

Very good!

Who could have told you that so far? Until now, for example, the cellar was still planned obviously too generously too big; about ancillary costs I have read quite a lot in this thread and the forum is full of it. But you will not get the exact euro amount here.
Here, logically, only rough formulas can be given to you that you can still partially influence yourself. For our house, for example, we did not install a heat pump for reasons, but use infrared and a fireplace, plus an air conditioning unit with which we also occasionally heat. There are so many screws to turn regarding a house price and what suits me can be considered nonsense by the next person. We wanted to build with Liapor, suddenly bricks appeared at the site and it was said the masonry company had to be changed, that was the only option. Excuse me? They had already started and what do you do then? Today the house stands the same in KfW40+ standard and how should I now notice which bricks were used?
Therefore, Massa Haus or Town & Country can also be an option for you; there are plenty of experience reports here. You only get a price once you know the direction you are heading. Have you reliably clarified that with your buddies already?

Also very good but here I often read about a matter of course that such things are also outsourced. Such things add up and that’s why I, for example, preferred to install an air conditioning unit with some of the money saved that way.

In your list of construction companies I read occasional "downratings," which in the end is too general because usually it depends on many things whether a build runs smoothly. My general contractor was top-rated, had regional references and exclusively small, regional companies. We would never build with him again, we use that idea more as a running gag nowadays. Others are very satisfied with Town & Country or also with Massa Haus. As I read from you, maybe a shell construction might also be suitable.
Find a suitable floor plan (Town & Country or somewhere else online), which can still be adjusted a bit here to your needs within the framework, and then go with it to Köhler or whoever he was called and tell him exactly that you have adapted it a bit from Town & Country or similar.
Then add your desired fittings and you already have a price.
Things to clarify: controlled residential ventilation? Insulation standard (I recommend at least KfW40), heating system? and his construction performance description, which you then carefully review together here. And then you are further and more concretely informed or realize that it might not work like that after all.
 

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