Deviation from the development plan in the new construction area is possible

  • Erstellt am 2018-02-16 10:47:45

Nordlys

2018-02-23 09:07:21
  • #1
I have to take Jana’s side a little now. After all, it’s her land. If I tell her, turn the house around and she says, no, I don’t want to, I don’t like it, then that’s decided.

If I tell her, a north-facing garden is not a big deal, the sun also comes from the west, just plan with a lot of open space to the west, she can say, no, I don’t want that. Ok, Jana, then sell the land and buy another.

In any case, she has to know what she wants. We, me, ant, ypg ...., have only made it clear that for us the plot would not be a big problem. Karsten
 

chand1986

2018-02-23 09:10:24
  • #2


Some not optimally planned. Others simply have different plots. Or are the 100 plots all copies of yours?

I also believe that rotation is the first, biggest, and most important step to solving your problem.

If you want to forcefully place your beloved floor plan in your beloved orientation on your plot by special permit, that may, maybe or maybe not, after a lot of time, with a lot of nerves and with extra money, work.

Prize question: Is it worth it then?

Is a modified floor plan with a rotated house and a different placement on the plot, which solves almost all problems at once, absolutely not an option? If not, why?



In my opinion, that would not be a purposeful advice, but still the best if there is no other will.
 

ypg

2018-02-23 10:50:09
  • #3
So, here we can only say something based on a vague description and drawing. It is said and fine. It is up to you to take the advice or at least to consider it. We have nothing to tell you, and you don't have to listen to us. We also gain nothing by giving you wrong advice; only you can recognize what is right since none of us know the property. And important: You owe us no explanation as to why you do it one way or another. You should only try to take the optimum and not out of convenience choose the easier way for you. After all, your mental problem only arose from a wrong understanding of the property because of the orientation?! Too bad that you didn't address that at all. Did the info about north and west even reach you?
 

Jana33

2018-02-23 14:57:06
  • #4
Hello dear previous speakers,

what I have taken away from this thread so far is that the northern part of a garden can probably be used in a meaningful way and contrary to my ideas it does not have to be a wet pond. In addition, the large distance to the neighbors in the north has the advantage that the path to the front door from the street is then not quite so far...

Many people do not see my problem with a 7.74 meter distance at the back as a problem.

What it's about for me now: regardless of whether I implement it or not: I really want to understand why you think that rotating is the better choice for the initial situation here... So far I cannot see any significant advantages why it should be better.

Attached is the plan as it currently is (I don’t have another one at hand right now)

For me it has the mentioned advantages:

2 large basement rooms in the north get daylight
Optimal orientation for photovoltaics
Kitchen and dining room on the ground floor south get most of the light
Large garage

Disadvantages:
No direct access from garage to house (however, if rotated, the garage would have to be smaller so it fits next to the house)
Path to the front door possibly still very long, but not relevant to me

So again my question: what do I gain if I rotate it?

: they are not copies in the sense that they have no slope... and therefore also no such large distance in the north to the neighbor but partly only 3m or max 6m there. In addition, problems for which I need the deviation unfortunately are not solved by rotating either, I still have to fill in and also need a retaining wall to the east, although that might be smaller then.

: “But you should try to take the optimum and not the easier way for you out of convenience.” I generally see it that way too, I just can’t see what the optimum is now or why.

“Has the info about north and west even reached you?” Hmm the thread is quite complex now, what exactly do you mean now? That more space in the west leads to more sun in the north?
 

11ant

2018-02-23 15:18:46
  • #5
The other 99 will simply not have rotated their house planning axis out of the plot axis at all, I would guess

The rotating thing is a matter of perspective: You wonder why you should rotate. Your "normal" is your previous plan, from this view it would be a twist, which rightly seems absurd. We start from the plot, which has a shape and an axis, and this is not in harmony with that of the house plan. From our point of view, what we recommend is a rotation back to the state of harmony of both axes. As if you had planned in a plot-sensitive way from the beginning.

Attached I have translated your PDF:
 

chand1986

2018-02-23 15:52:29
  • #6


Ergo: What others do does not necessarily have to be good for you. Even if 99 place their house correctly, you could be the 100th who should do it differently to use the property optimally.

Regarding the deviation: What options would theoretically arise for you to move a house rotated 90° as far forward on the property as possible? Possibly including a slight reduction of the garage-entrance complex. Just do the thought experiment, maybe even a drawing (+ north arrow) here. It won’t hurt at first.

Which of these constellations work? Which of them provide the maximum garden with western sun exposure? Do all options also need special permits or is there one that immediately complies with the regulations?

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If it were my property, I would try to get as far as possible with the house toward the street, short access path, large garden in the back, even though that is north. To what extent this can be aligned with the existing development plan and house wishes I cannot fully comprehend. My opinion is that the rotation would be very helpful here.
 

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