Craftsmen leave a battlefield

  • Erstellt am 2020-12-06 12:04:24

Tassimat

2020-12-09 12:48:37
  • #1
The term builder has nothing to do with new construction. My point was that you probably need to be more involved and have to give corresponding instructions on the construction site. With craftsmen and on construction sites, it’s not enough to simply draw up a contract believing that it will suffice. Someone has to be responsible for the big picture, which goes beyond the commissioned services and takes into account the interactions (sequence) with other trades. If a 60-year-old door is important, then you should remove the door leaf and protect the frame. Or as the client, you should also purchase exactly this service ;) At least you have to make it clear to the people on site that they have to protect the door from now on. Otherwise, the craftsmen thoughtlessly assume that the door will be replaced later anyway. Or they don’t have the material to protect it at all because the people on site were not aware of the door.
 

Winniefred

2020-12-11 16:49:08
  • #2
Deduct everything that is broken from the bill, unless you can agree otherwise in a previous conversation. Demand cleaning, meaning the cleaning of the simply used devices. I would do that myself if necessary and check it off. Construction dust etc. is completely normal. Whoever places something on a construction site where bathrooms are being redone etc., really has to expect that. I would never have thought that before either, we also renovated.
A damaged door frame is not normal. The question is whether you can prove that it was not damaged before? Otherwise, they will say, yes, that thing is 60 years old and already had the marks before.

Unfortunately, it is the reality that you have to take care of many things yourself. In my opinion, the toilet belongs to that, or at least clarify something like that with the boss beforehand. People need to go to the toilet somewhere, that is clear. We always made sure that at least 1 toilet remained available. Masking windows and doors etc., it is better to do that yourself.

All of this is not very satisfactory, but after 3 years in an old building with various craftsmen and projects on my own, I can tell you that most of it is normal.
 

barfly666

2020-12-16 09:10:14
  • #3
Good morning,


Gritting my teeth and just accepting it for now, then at the end charging it back. The boss was visibly embarrassed and it also gave him a headache. But he can’t just ask every one of his people either, since they would all deny it anyway. We’ll surely come to an agreement. :-/


If I get any more involved, I’ll be laying tiles myself or they’ll just bail on me. I’m on site every day besides my regular work. Just as a small example:
Nice granite slabs, a package was delivered later and shows some different brightness (discussion with the craftsman, who thinks that with natural stone there can’t be different batches, I explained to him that this is possible if the slabs come from a completely different piece of granite from the same quarry, for example). No problem, they can be laid where the kitchen units will stand, some slabs have “damn” chipped corners, of course no one did it, it was already there … but whatever:
Day 1, first row laid, I come to the site and one laid slab has a crack, I’m like “dude, didn’t you see that? Looks dumb, get it out, redo it”
Days 2-3-4, the craftsman thinks, I’ll leave it half done and put in the windows upstairs first (halfway done kind of)
Day 5, 4th row laid, one slab is completely dark, I’m like “I told you, what is this supposed to be? Looks dumb,” craftsman explains the slabs soak through the adhesive and after drying they’ll be as bright as the others, I don’t quite buy that
Days 6-7, finish laying, but only half grouted, slab is still horribly dark and stands out completely, could puke


Well, I’m of the opinion that I’ve bought that with it if I commission something like that. A painter wouldn’t say to me “painting 500 € and all the masking will cost 2000 € then.”

Due to scheduling the parquet sander was already upstairs. Old school, the parquet looks damn cool *happy*. The bathroom isn’t finished yet though. Craftsman warned the parquet guy x times to only enter after drying and curing. I think I saw tiles upstairs that weren’t there before. A scrape at the door in the parquet where there is no sealing either … hmmm … of course it wasn’t upstairs … warned again to cover everything or he’ll lose the rework payment. Put down thick foil myself, fetched old floor coverings from the basement and covered the path with them. Next day I come, the foil is gone (was apparently too slippery) and dumb again. Almost not covered at all, see picture:
 

Olli-Ka

2020-12-16 09:21:27
  • #4
Hi,
this just won’t do.
Document everything extremely precisely and charge for everything.
Immediately inform their boss, maybe there are communication/language problems, which nowadays isn’t so uncommon.
Regards, Olli
 

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