Cost estimation for major renovation

  • Erstellt am 2023-10-16 17:30:25

ruby27

2023-10-16 21:18:18
  • #1


Yes, I think so too. With 2000€ renovation costs per square meter, it hardly seems feasible anymore.

We also don’t have a clear overview yet of which funding options are available. We could cover the purchase price from equity and planned to finance the majority of the renovation costs (about 350,000€). We just don’t know what that means as a monthly burden, since we don’t know exactly which funding at which interest rate is possible. All in all, the house should be paid off in 25 years, and we could afford around 1600€ monthly loan payments. The KFW offers much better conditions than a regular bank. But we don’t know exactly what would be possible for us under which conditions.
 

11ant

2023-10-16 21:34:42
  • #2
Back then, hardly anyone indulged in that much living space (except as a villa). Make sure that this total does not include rooms finished unofficially. If the windows were a single measure back then, this could indicate "measures only when absolutely necessary." Check whether there is a "concept" behind the previous modernization.
 

ruby27

2023-10-16 22:24:19
  • #3
The house was used as a two-family house (one apartment on the ground floor, one on the upper floor). The attic is developed and there is also a permit for residential use of the attic. However, there is no kitchen and no bathroom installed in the attic. I strongly doubt that there was any concept for the installation of the windows... Everything else was not renovated either and is therefore in need of renovation.
 

kati1337

2023-10-16 23:37:18
  • #4


For me, that would be the red flag that makes any renovation cost estimate obsolete. :D Doesn’t that bother you at all? I’m sensitive about it and wouldn’t even dare to live in a semi-detached house. But to glue myself with a semi-detached house of unknown soundproofing quality (potentially none at all?) directly onto a fully rented multi-family house—I'd really be afraid of noise. In a semi-detached house, you only have one party who potentially still wants to live peacefully next to you for a long time, so consideration is usually given. In a multi-party building, people "only" rent and there are multiple parties, which increases the likelihood of having troublemakers and makes it simultaneously harder to identify the offending party. Maybe I’m paranoid because I’m sensitive and predisposed, but I just wanted to mention it. :)
 

ruby27

2023-10-17 00:26:48
  • #5


We live in the middle of Hamburg. So no, the attached apartment building doesn’t bother us at all. At the moment we live in a mid-terraced house from the 60s, before that always in apartment buildings. We have never had any problems.
 

dertill

2023-10-17 08:19:57
  • #6


Based on the information and your situation, I would aim for the renovation to the KfW Efficiency House 85 EE (or 70 EE). 70 EE or better is probably difficult with "only" blown-in insulation. You can claim two residential units and thereby get a total loan for the eligible measures of 2 * 150k at a low interest rate plus a repayment grant. The repayment grant is then also 10% + 10% WPB at 85 EE (I assume, if the "new" windows don’t ruin that). For the energy certificate, look for an issuer on site and point out the funding with WPB. An energy demand certificate should definitely be bad enough – and a consumption certificate is probably not allowed at all. Since personal contribution is not possible, the mentioned €2000+ per m² is already realistic. You have to consider that your roof area is small in relation to the living space (2 floors + attic) and the facade should "only" receive blown-in insulation. These are two major items that partly drop out or then become cheaper.
 

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