Construction costs for a new building: Two-family house in Schleswig-Holstein

  • Erstellt am 2017-09-24 00:21:36

Nordlys

2017-09-24 22:12:58
  • #1
Well, you have to think ahead. The parents may have to use the house for care purposes, they may want to sell one half of the house one day in favor of assisted living, the young ones will then be left to deal with the necessities of life. The semi-detached house model with two practically separable properties is then easier. This is often possible in SH. Because unlike in Hesse, we often get 700 sqm plots here, which allow such a construction method. Or two 500 sqm plots next to each other, then you can fit a 95 sqm bungalow on the first part, and a 130 sqm single-family house on the second part. Karsten
 

apokolok

2017-09-25 14:59:07
  • #2
Basically, the tips from nordlys are certainly valuable. However, I think it’s not a good idea at all to just have such a somewhat unique house planned by any builder or even to make your own design. Go to an architect with your wishes; they have a completely different approach. Far more sophisticated things come out of that than, with all due respect, the absolutely Spartan bungalow from nordlys. Interesting designs don’t initially cost the earth but show you completely different possibilities than you develop yourself on graph paper. Apart from that, I would also consider two separated living units or even houses. What are you going to do with 275m² of living space when your parents are underground and the children have moved out? Another question: where does the valuation report for the old house come from? Allegedly unfavorable location, no schools accessible, but still worth €400,000?
 

philippges

2017-09-25 15:13:25
  • #3
That in itself is not an unfavorable location. On the contrary - however, there is NO suitable school nearby FOR US. Some may find this silly, but for us, this is a reason to make the location dependent on it. The current house is significantly larger and fully basemented, about 350m2 of living space, plus the basement, garage, etc. But simply not age-appropriate. And the opportunity would be good - in 2 years the first child will start school, the old loan would be due, and my parents do not yet feel too old to move.
 

Nordlys

2017-09-25 15:51:24
  • #4
Do you want to go to Lensahn because of the Waldorf school?

As far as I know, there is reasonably priced building land there.
Karsten
 

philippges

2017-09-25 16:16:04
  • #5
Yes, that would be an option, right! Or somewhere between Lensahn and Kiel – so towards Lütjenburg. But we don’t know anything for sure yet. It depends on the school; we also don’t know where we’ll be accepted. We don’t want the regular school here, but there are still some other options in SH. Basically, I assume that the house will cost about the same and I have already generously budgeted 150,000 for the land because it shouldn’t be small or unattractive building land. Of course, I know that with that budget I won’t get anything great near bigger cities, but something should be possible in the countryside.

What still unsettles me about the question between an architect and a general contractor is this: I understand that an architect might have more ideas and can certainly bring clever ideas. But I can also imagine that a more practice-oriented entrepreneur has his place – because I don’t really know any architects, so it would be “just any architect” for me. And they don’t all perform miracles anyway... creativity is definitely not lacking for us, it would mainly be about feasibility. And I am personally more practically inclined and, as mentioned, don’t need anything particularly fancy. However, at the beginning I also assumed that an architect would have to be involved. What I’d be interested in is: from when do I have to pay for the question of feasibility? Let’s assume I come with a few basic ideas, have some CAD drawings with me, and am now looking for either a general contractor or an architect – who charges for what at what point?

Background of the question: my parents once planned a house extension. There were offers ranging from 25,000 euros to 70,000 euros. The range was so wide that I don’t want to rely on just two opinions and would definitely spend time looking for the right person/company. Not to find the cheapest at all costs, but to find the one who is simply best overall. If I had to pay a few thousand each time, I wouldn’t be very happy...
 

Nordlys

2017-09-25 16:29:47
  • #6
Hansühn or Kaköhl, don’t do that to your parents. They aren’t getting younger, doctor etc. not on site, no, the village is sh.... when you’re older. Lensahn still has Alpen 815 sqm for 58 thousand, fully developed, semi-detached house allowed. No building commitment. Long term. That’s a good price. You’re not allowed to post links here, but you’ll find it anyway. Architect. Utke. Oldenburg would be one who also likes doing something like that. A first conversation, a small sketch, then it costs money. Yes, with our general contractor Specht we had three talks, three designs, various small changes. Money only flowed after the foundation slab. As I said. No contract, just a handshake. He senses whether you’re messing with him or mean it seriously. Stollhaus and Team massiv also gave us a first draft with calculation for free. However, we didn’t negotiate further there, because Stollhaus was too expensive and Team... that was just a feeling that they wouldn’t be our first choice. Not really justifiable. Karsten
 

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