Complete solid construction company, hire individual companies?

  • Erstellt am 2013-10-04 19:43:17

Der Da

2013-10-08 09:26:32
  • #1
How do you come up with the total budget of 220,000€? Estimated, or have you already spoken with a consultant? I hope you have understood that your wishes cannot be fulfilled in the slightest for this amount of money. Why do you want to buy the [Grundstück] so far in advance? Do you have equity for this?
 

verbagdonas

2013-10-08 11:27:19
  • #2
I have about half for the plot and we only have 3 plots left in our new development area...
 

Bauexperte

2013-10-08 11:53:18
  • #3
Hello,


I know that already – "we’ve always done it that way... that’s always how it’s been... that’s right." Don’t be offended, but I have my experiences with “experienced” fathers. Often it feels like running into a brick wall :(


That’s nice for you. But the question must be: do these friends also want to sacrifice their free time for you as a heartfelt thank you? To make sure after work and on weekends that you can move into your house as inexpensively as possible? And – what I find increasingly important, above all else: do these friendships also withstand the strain of a “possible” warranty issue?


That’s already a good start!


Why should that be? When awarding through an architect, it doesn’t have to get more expensive; usually it only does if self-discipline falls by the wayside. However, the so-called cost estimates from some architects are often problematic. Therefore, it is important to find an architect who not only knows how to handle creativity but also numbers. That, however, can usually be found out by asking around within your acquaintances about their experiences.

Otherwise – if it’s supposed to be a simple architecture, you can also commission a trusted provider to create just the shell house and then contract the further finishing trades independently. But here again someone should supervise, be able to prepare tender documents, read offers, assess the delivered work and adjust the offers accordingly… etc.… and that someone should be a professional and not the experienced father-in-law ;)

Best regards from the Rhineland
 

Der Da

2013-10-08 12:10:57
  • #4
My neighbor built his house with his own hands. According to him, he and some helpers from the village did everything themselves. Now he is considering selling his house because he and his wife are too ill to maintain it. He had an energy certificate issued and then asked me if I could help him interpret it. He was given an energy requirement of 350 kWh/m²/a.

What I want to say is, it may be that your father-in-law knows how to lay bricks, that he knows how to roof a house, but does he know the current regulations? Can he handle current materials like insulation, for example?
My stepfather is also a skilled craftsman. He looks at a piece of furniture and rebuilds it. Wallpapering, laying floors, etc., is easy for him, and he has also built a house himself. But he was very impressed by our prefab house because technically it is in a completely different league.
If you want to do a lot by yourself and have enough helpers, definitely get someone to take over the construction management from the outside and supervise your work. In the end, that will be money well spent.

As the building expert already said: talk about warranties. What happens in case of damage... a pipe not pressed correctly and you have your water damage. Your coworkers are probably not insured then.
We had everything done that could possibly get very expensive and did the rest ourselves. We already have some small flaws in the floor because maybe we didn’t lay it like a professional, but I can live with that because I know the people who helped me did it gladly and to the best of their knowledge and belief. As a layperson, you just don’t think of certain things. But a lot of money was saved because of that.
 

HilfeHilfe

2013-10-08 13:01:00
  • #5
Hello

Conversely, my best friend wanted to do something good for his father, who owns a well-established window manufacturing company, and took out the trade of windows and doors and gave it to him.

He also built very high-quality. What had to happen, happened. The windows upstairs were "crooked" after installation. The father saw it differently and also blamed the masons. It escalated. Since then, the father only speaks the necessary to the son, and the son has hired a second company to pull the cart out of the mud.

It was not about saving money here but about keeping the service within the family. Nevertheless, it went wrong. And with such high investments, the warranty would be important to me. "Muscle mortgage" never has and never will. Some trades can be done with friends, some cannot.
 

Larsbit

2017-07-13 16:42:59
  • #6
During the use of Vigour rimless deep flush toilets, there were repeated problems. Water splashes over the rim when flushing or under the lid when it is closed. According to customers and also my view, this is very unhygienic. Rimless toilets from Vigour are not recommended. After consulting with Vigour, it was said to be a problem with the cistern, but this was not confirmed. The rimless toilet is worthless. Caution.
 

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