Coalition Agreement 2025, New Building Funding

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Tolentino

2025-06-13 20:25:19
  • #1
Well, the super-rich have not only the possibility to legally avoid taxes through the means of shifting wealth into new holdings again and again etc., but above all also the possibility, through contacts, influence, power, position, which primarily arise from their wealth (which is usually not the product of their own labor but inherited, Klatten is a good example here), to exert influence on legislation that makes such tricks possible. We are talking about entire laws that are literally written by lobbyists for the members of parliament. And anyone who then talks about an envy debate really has not understood who holds the leash and who has it around their neck, yes, probably secretly dreams of belonging to those at the very top themselves...
 

Joedreck

2025-06-14 10:17:56
  • #2
[A QUOTE="Tolentino, post: 689457, member: 50284"]
A few examples of what is unreasonable:
Single parent working non-negotiable shift work.
PhD engineer cleaning toilets (I would also consider this a macroeconomic unreasonable waste).
A person who can only work a maximum of 6 hours per day for health reasons (verifiable) should be sanctioned because they have rejected a 40-hour position.

You are already asking the right question, but unfortunately your own answer falls far too short.
And personally, I do not want a single employee of the employment agency to decide whether someone is able to work or whether a certain job is reasonable for a certain person.

First of all, the state should provide more jobs before resorting to forced labor by coercion.

I do not want the state to waste resources (I mean time and personnel, not money) putting out a capitalist smoke screen before (actually, I don’t want this at all) it has tackled the big buckets (in the multifaceted sense): tax evasion, unfair tax avoidance (exemption needs assessment), and undeclared work (where again, mainly the big players matter, the cleaning staff or someone cutting their neighbor’s hair over the bathtub is simply irrelevant).

Yes, the retiree story sounds good at first. But that is also just a smoke screen.
Firstly, we do not have enough jobs! The shortage of skilled workers is very industry-specific and in many areas (automotive) the trend has already reversed again.
Precarious jobs are not affected by this at all.
But the retirees who have worked their lives in them (and are suitably qualified) are the ones who would even take that chance. The highly educated engineers still needed in some areas no longer want to work and do not need to (financially). Those who want to are not dependent on the 2k allowance to do it—they are intrinsically motivated and have a lot of drive.
Where the shortage is most glaring, e.g. in nursing, money is not the main problem but the inhumane working conditions. Someone who has retired from the job usually can no longer do the job.

The next thing is tax-free overtime. Again, first stimulate the need for the extra work.
How do you prevent piles of full-time workers nominally reducing hours and then doing overtime on part-time contracts (there may already be approaches for this, but I think it is a legitimate question)?
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It's a pity that the discussion became awkward in the replies after you.
However, you are right that my "without ifs and buts" was too short-sighted or not sufficiently thought through to the end. To be honest, I mentally assumed that the framework conditions fit for "assigned" jobs. So working hours taking the necessities of the person themselves into account.
Where I still disagree, however, is that an engineer must accept a cleaning job. If the engineer cannot find a job in their field, then it is better that they work something than nothing at all. They can easily continue applying from that job. But discussing this here to the end will probably not succeed anyway.

You can also talk about a night-watchman state. Then it does not intervene at all, the tax burden is correspondingly low, but the social fabric is then torn apart. What I do not like at all is that individual people are not held responsible anymore.
There are quite a few points where one can take action. Both regarding the overall tax system, as well as tax avoidance, and also the social system and its design. One does not exclude the other.
 

HausKaufBayern

2025-06-14 12:56:50
  • #3


By reforming the assessment ceiling, do you mean abolishing it? The top earners already pay €1200 per month for health insurance including the employer's share. How can anyone come up with the idea of increasing this share even further? At the latest then, everyone will switch directly to private health insurance, which offers better benefits at lower contributions (with fewer than 2 children), including old-age reserves. The problem is that for citizen's income recipients and refugees, only a flat rate of €100 per month is paid by the state. Of course, the system is skewed. Please be careful what you wish for; every further increase in income tax or social contributions on income makes this country even less attractive for high performers. And do not forget that jobs for top earners are in big cities and not in the sticks – i.e., someone who earns €120k+ does not automatically live like a king in France but rather similarly to someone with €70k in Saxony.

Not a few of my colleagues go abroad as delegates and do not come back but work under local contracts in China or the USA. Why do you think that is?
 

HuppelHuppel

2025-06-14 13:10:20
  • #4
Finally, someone says it...

Then there are housing benefit recipients and low-wage earners with families who overly burden the systems. Sooner or later, we will develop in the direction of the USA. Once we have abolished/privatized the social systems, we can also open the borders for everyone. Win-win for all.

: The contribution assessment ceiling will be raised to 120-150k, then hardly anyone can "escape".
 

HausKaufBayern

2025-06-14 13:27:21
  • #5
And we are in international competition with our labor (ancillary) costs.
My employer is already carefully considering today whether to build up employees in Germany or in the USA or in China.

In many high-technology fields, we compete internationally. In mechanical engineering/robotics and automation technology, Chinese companies already offer "just fit" products at a significantly lower price than Western companies.
We can afford a certain premium in Germany, but the limit must not be exceeded.

If the culture becomes too performance-averse, there is no incentive for employees to move into management positions. If a senior "clerk," technologist earns €100k p.a. with 35 hours, and a manager with a 60-hour week earns €140-150k with significantly higher social contributions/tax burden, but takes home not much more net, then it is not worth it.
 

Musketier

2025-06-14 15:02:43
  • #6
Now the person who earns just below the contribution assessment ceiling bears the largest percentage burden. Some PKV insured switch back to the GKV shortly before 55 and thus take the best of both worlds. It would probably be fairer to introduce a GKV for everyone and then cover higher benefits through the PKV.
 
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