City villa floor plan / Feedback on static analysis, arrangement

  • Erstellt am 2014-01-11 16:07:56

NZiege

2014-01-29 10:18:42
  • #1
The complete furnishing is shown only as depicted to give an idea of the size. Also the arrangement, width, height of the windows. Presumably, the entire recess around the living and dining area will even be made of glass. Having a sofa facing away from the glass facade is not a problem for us. The TV will tend to be wall-mounted anyway.

The utility room, as mentioned, will be significantly larger, the heating will be placed in the separate equipment room, which will then extend towards the back. The arrangement of the doors is also purely exemplary to illustrate through which rooms one should be able to walk (directly through the garage into the utility room to the kitchen).

We need to look into the island once we know the measurements for sure and then see how much space remains on both sides.

Also on the upper floor, the furnishing is intended only as a reference. The master bathroom / bath will definitely be designed completely differently. Toilet and shower back to back and built in a "T" shape, with the sinks presumably placed in the middle of the room on the separating wall of the shower.

The same applies to the table in the dressing room. A kind of vanity table is intended by the window, and it is clear that no standard cabinets will be placed to the left and right of it. The ends of the cabinets could rather be pure storage space for, e.g., the above-mentioned winter shoes or carnival costumes. If you don't need to access these every day and given the size of the dressing room, I do think that the corner cabinets can fulfill their function. The dressing room will be custom-made by the carpenter anyway.

We have no problem at all with the slanted walls as long as all minimum measurements for the rooms are met. And, as mentioned, the architect has already been tasked with adding a small storage room upstairs for vacuum cleaner and cleaning supplies.

Currently, we are also tending towards the design without a children's bathroom.
 

Jaydee

2014-01-29 10:57:32
  • #2
But how do you want to plan properly if you only sketch the furniture as an example? Are you going to build first and then see if you can actually arrange your living room that way?

Which wall is the TV supposed to go on? There isn't a free one left!

You are building a fairly straight line (in other words: townhouse - square, practical, good) and the house has corners and slanted walls? That doesn't fit together.

You should also remember that there can be circumstances where such a house has to be sold. It shouldn't only reflect your taste, especially since slanted walls are being installed here for no good reason.

About the utility room: Honestly, I couldn't imagine that a room of just under 13 sqm would already be full because of the technology inside. Until our house was built and the technology was actually in there.
 

Bauexperte

2014-01-29 11:11:28
  • #3
Hello,


I would be interested to know what your architect says about the costs. Many projections and the "extension" to accommodate the garage and technology is also not exactly small, but can almost be described as straightforward.

Rhenish greetings
 

NZiege

2014-01-29 12:12:13
  • #4
Please do not misunderstand the following or interpret it as an "attack." These are mostly personal opinions:

Counter-question: Do all your furniture pieces stay in the exact spot where they were drawn in the 3rd (or final) draft until death? For me, the furnishing is only meant to serve as a reference. (Admittedly, for sinks or the kitchen, the connections do matter, but as mentioned, the bathroom is only exemplary.) A sofa can be quickly rearranged. If it is placed with its back to the glass front, the entire opposite wall is free for the TV.
I am building a house the way I imagine it: rooms, sizes, impression, light, angles, etc. Of course, I could build my house around the perfect living room setup. But I prefer to assume that I will rearrange things at some point.

I absolutely do not see a city villa as having to be square, practical, and good by definition. We simply do not want a completely flat facade. It should look interesting and exciting – individual; not like a bunker. Depending on how the recess in the garden is designed later, we can also well imagine putting a roof on it, which would shift the whole thing in the direction of a Tuscany mix.
Therefore, I am not interested in the house sale component either. We are building for ourselves and assume it will be forever. If the house is sold, that is the worst-case scenario anyway. Across the street is the parental farm of appropriate size. The village is about 3 km away in the middle of nowhere. Not many people want to move there anyway. Before a sale, the house would fall to my future father-in-law (and my girlfriend would remain alone), since otherwise, he would have problems with emission values. A sale therefore has no influence on the design. In our opinion, the house should only reflect our taste.

Well, as I said, no heating/water/electricity technology should be installed in the utility room of approx. 15 sqm. Instead, there will be a separate equipment room, which, as far as I am concerned, can be completely full.

Nevertheless, thank you for the note; we will take it into account.

The architect said, "Screed, plaster, and all that stuff will be billed by cubic meters anyway. It can easily flow into corners." The mason (and the ceiling) will certainly be a bit more expensive, but since we are currently planning to do a lot of the work ourselves with a mason friend, we see no problems.
In our region, the current rate is between €235 and €300 according to DIN 276. For our planning, the architect estimated €270. I compared this with statistical values at our bank and can confirm it. Garage etc. at €100-150. Since the land does not have to be paid for, we see no problems there. Personally, as a banker, I can only contribute auxiliary-type own work (plan in financing: €0). The rest of the group consists of craftsmen with corresponding eagerness. The item "own work" can therefore only have positive effects.
 

ypg

2014-01-29 17:35:34
  • #5
The oven is planned too far from a work surface. You have to take quite a few steps with the Christmas goose or the full baking tray. For two weeks now, I have had tall cabinets housing the ovens over a length of 180 cm. Of course, our kitchen is different. In short: not even the pot holder or the spoon for stirring or the tray can be placed or set down near the oven like that.
A door that opens outwards so it’s not in the way in the kitchen row... also a method to turn the floor into a mistake. Well, if it’s feasible.
Doors: can be annoying when they’re installed incorrectly.
You can’t just plan halfway, you have to plan everything carefully, including the bathroom. What use are 16 square meters if the desired fashion T-shirt can’t be large enough later to accommodate two sinks, or the passage to the toilet becomes too narrow? Or if there simply isn’t an ideal place for the bathtub?

Of course, rooms grow; sometimes one piece of furniture or another is replaced. Whether newly purchased or the old one moved to another place. It’s just annoying when no sofa fits, or you have to look at cables on the back side.
If you place your (existing or planned) furniture where you can also imagine it beforehand, it is a support in planning. At least for you, there is still no cinema flair in the living room, and slanted walls also don’t allow variable design.
One should plan the ideal and not later realize that the ideal is not present in the house.

For example, we only have a bed 160 cm wide, but we planned so that a 2-meter-wide bed also fits. Things can change after all.

In principle, I like the ground floor (with small changes), nevertheless: what is great downstairs is lousy upstairs.

The dear people who take on the floor plans here have faced or are facing the challenge themselves of planning an ideal floor plan. Some of us had to move walls back and forth for weeks; usually it was the realization that something doesn’t work or it works better because... because others pointed it out. It’s just the way it is: you can’t live in glossy brochures or showrooms... and some things have somehow proven themselves. You don’t have to reinvent the wheel by, for example, having double trapped rooms. A trapped room is already a thing in itself, but doubling the entire trouble??? Well then, the arguments are here (you gave them to yourself too, but probably overlooked them). It also simply makes sense to have a straight wall opposite the bed (maybe a TV should be mounted there after all, because it’s too uncomfortable on the ground floor?)

I’m curious what the architect will conjure up for you... by the way, did you actually answer the question of how much you want to spend on your house? The statics demands masterpieces.
 

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