Can a covered terrace be counted as living space?

  • Erstellt am 2020-12-06 20:31:09

KonstantinW

2020-12-07 23:54:21
  • #1


if you want that...




No. Southern part of the area only flat to gently sloping roofs (up to 15°) and northern part everything that has a steeper pitch.




we don't want that..




Then it will probably have to go without a solution ;)




that's why also said that it won't work with the garage as I plan it
 

11ant

2020-12-08 00:01:09
  • #2
Not even if it were the solution?
 

KonstantinW

2020-12-08 00:09:35
  • #3


It is a solution, but not THE solution ;)

So let's wait..
either there is someone who still understands this, or we sit down with the architect, and in the end I can then convince you of the opposite. If everything has been approved :)
 

sascha-t4-le

2020-12-08 10:28:25
  • #4
Hi,
just some info:
the HE-HBO from 2006 still included the following:

"The areas of garages integrated into buildings are added. Areas of attached garages are disregarded in the measurement of the area. Due to the purely planning-law significance of the full-storey concept, the assessment of whether the garage is integrated depends on the external appearance of the building and not on the structural separation between garage use and other use."

And I am of the opinion that this also includes boundary garages. Maybe they overreached, as this statement was removed in the new edition.

Likewise, the following text was included in 2006, but it has also been removed. I find that a bit odd. I think the responsibility should be assigned to the builder or architect.

"The 'gross floor area of the underlying storey' is measured in accordance with DIN 277 Part 1 according to the outer edges or outer surfaces of the building envelope walls or - insofar as the storey does not have building envelope walls - according to the outer edges or outer surfaces of the components delimiting the storey. This means:
• Areas of building parts that protrude beyond the building envelope walls, e.g. balconies, are disregarded in the measurement of the gross floor area; this does not apply insofar as balconies are covered and not for covered terraces,
• Areas that lie behind the alignment of the outer wall, e.g. loggias, are included in the measurement of the gross floor area."

best regards
 

11ant

2020-12-08 12:40:33
  • #5
Quite "confident" ;-) for someone who has a problem and is offered a solution. You commit a fallacy if you infer from only one solution that there must be a nicer one among those not yet mentioned to you. (Unfortunately, that only applies to Cinderella). I have been familiar with this for about forty years, not as extensively as Escroda – but enough to very confidently tell you: in your case, the set of solutions contains exactly ONE element. If you now eliminate this by definition/exclusion "solutions that are not Wolpertingers do not count," then your solution set becomes an empty set. You have an upper floor identical in external dimensions to the ground floor – these areas are therefore equal in size. The only thing that enlarges your ground floor here is a covered seating area – which, regardless of whether its roof is screwed, glued, or welded to the house, is not a closed space and therefore does not fully count. To achieve your goal solely by means of this covered seating area, it would have to increase the ground floor by two-thirds – if your building window and floor area ratio allowed that, it would still be an expensive endeavor. You should not "proudly" dismiss a simpler solution from your bedside like that. Even Olivia Jones with mega heels and a hat or tower hairstyle does not necessarily need headroom everywhere in the attic equivalent to a room height of two sixty. But please – keep dreaming. Nevertheless, I remain curious about the brilliant solution you want to present to us later – thank you in advance, as it will please many readers.
 

Sparfuchs77

2020-12-08 12:47:05
  • #6
And what if you plan the terrace as an unheated conservatory? The glass panes could be ,,dismantled later,, ;) . Just an idea and no clue if that would be a solution ^^
 

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