Can a covered terrace be counted as living space?

  • Erstellt am 2020-12-06 20:31:09

11ant

2020-12-09 12:17:10
  • #1
I did not find this meaningful here: I do not read this as referring to full-story but rather floor area ratio questions; as in some countries it matters whether a terrace extending from the building envelope is attached to the house or "in the high seas."
 

ypg

2020-12-09 12:39:07
  • #2


Mostly... if the development plan excludes it anyway through other regulations, then it does not have to be listed.

This applies to floor area ratio/floor space index calculations. Full floor rules must be considered separately.

Although: You are of course right. Without all the information, one can only guess or give a tip. The homework lies with the builder or architect.
 

sascha-t4-le

2020-12-09 12:40:28
  • #3


I see it differently. The paragraph is copied from a chapter dealing with full story status. If you are interested, I will include the complete interpretation of §2.4.4 below:

2.4.4 The full story status can also be lost in non-top floors with pitched roofs. In contrast, the privilege for setback floors only applies to the top floor of a building.
If the previously top floor loses this characteristic due to an added upper floor, the privilege of the setback floor rule no longer applies. The planning law permissible number of full stories can thereby be exceeded.
For the definition of story, see section 2.3.3.
The “gross floor area of the floor below” is determined according to DIN 277 Part 1 by the external edges or outer surfaces of the enclosing walls of the building or – insofar as the floor has no enclosing walls – by the external edges or outer surfaces of the components limiting the floor. This means:
• Areas of building parts that project beyond the building enclosing walls, e.g. balconies, are disregarded in the measurement of the gross floor area; this does not apply insofar as balconies are roofed and not for roofed terraces,
• Areas located behind the alignment of the outer wall, e.g. loggias, are included in the measurement of the gross floor area.
Areas of garages integrated into buildings are added.
Areas of attached garages are disregarded in the measurement of the area. Because the full story concept only has planning law relevance, the assessment of whether the garage is integrated depends on the external appearance of the building and not on the structural separation between garage use and other uses.
In the fictitious plane to be determined at a height of 2.30 m in roof floors, which is to be related to the gross floor area of the floor below for determining full story status, roofed loggias and dormers are to be included. Loggias and roof indentations that are not roofed are disregarded in determining the fictitious area.
If there is no “floor below” in roof floors (only roof houses), the gross floor area of the floor itself is to be used.
 

KonstantinW

2021-01-27 15:36:12
  • #4
So...

after the winter break, something has now happened.
For those who still want to know.

After consultation with the city, we were informed that the responsible office in our construction area decided against counting the terrace roof as part of the number of storeys.
What worked for my sister-in-law was actually a mistake on their part, as they had not paid close attention.

Now we have come to the conclusion to include a conservatory in the plan instead of the terrace roof, which, according to the city, is recognized as habitable space and counts towards the number of storeys.
Thus, we reach the required 2/3, which classifies our house as having 1 full storey.

We had also considered moving the walls in or out, or just a partial roof, but we decided against it in order not to spoil the appearance of the house.
 

Hänsel&Gretel

2023-08-02 00:39:38
  • #5


From which work does this excerpt originate? Thank you!
 

Hänsel&Gretel

2023-08-02 13:24:42
  • #6
Is this, as mentioned at the beginning, really an excerpt from the HE-HBO of 2006 (or maybe a commentary)?
 

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