Building land in the middle of nowhere with the house prices?!

  • Erstellt am 2023-05-29 21:42:04

Johannes1982

2023-05-29 22:44:20
  • #1
Doesn't that also depend crucially on the location? The building area is comparatively inexpensive and construction cost increases are quite high today. But I generally don't estimate the demand to be that high for such a small village. The larger towns are at least 20 km away…
 

xMisterDx

2023-05-30 00:38:55
  • #2
Just calculate for yourself what 2 cars cost that each drive 22,000 km annually (220 working days * 50km * 2) just to get to work. Even if I cautiously estimate 20 cents/km, that's 4,400 EUR per vehicle, so 8,800 EUR together. On top of that come the kilometers you drive your children to leisure activities because the bus only runs every 2 hours outside of rush hour. And you get in the car all the time otherwise too; even the 5 km to the supermarket are rarely done by bike, even if you firmly intend to do so now. Most of the time, you simply lack the time for that and often also the motivation...

By the way, you can forget about the figure of 3,200 EUR/m² found here for now. That applies to high-end finishes and move-in-ready houses where everything, absolutely everything, is done by craftsmen... up to assembling the furniture and the first window cleaning before moving in.

If you do some of it yourself and are satisfied with "standard," so no fireplace, no KNX, laminate instead of parquet (laid yourself), no painter who charges 25,000 EUR to paste fleece and paint the walls, no double garage, just parking spaces... you can manage with 2,500-2,700 EUR/m².

And besides the costs of commuting... I commuted 100 km daily over the A2 and A39 for years. I was paid for it, since I was in field service. But I often asked myself why I even went home instead of going to a hotel when I sat in traffic starting around 5 pm, sometimes already beginning at the lay-by before the motorway entrance. There were quite a few days when I left at 7 am and got home at 7 pm. If I imagine the hours on the motorway were my private pleasure...

Better to live in a "simple standard" house in or near the city... than in a high-end villa somewhere in the sticks. Also consider that you will get old someday. My grandmother had to have someone drive her to the doctor constantly in the end because she couldn’t do it anymore.
 

11ant

2023-05-30 01:53:37
  • #3
Complaints about affordable building land I read very rarely. Two thousand souls is a critical local size in which an unfavorable demographic profile cannot be compensated. Even just one restaurant and only one pharmacy are just one count away from none at all. I would live there with three- and six-year-old kids where playmates are also offered to them. This is the case in residential areas for young families, at least when you specifically consider those with the typical developer offers (semi-detached houses and triplexes). They typically have about 140 square meters, fit one to three children (or two plus home office), and are priced for young families, also in terms of the holding period. You fit in there almost perfectly, the children fully, and the parents at around 40 already above average. Exactly where does Dr. von königliche Hoheit have a fundamental adequacy problem? If you find renovating beneath your dignity, no problem: there are craftsmen who do this commercially.
 

schubert79

2023-05-30 06:19:38
  • #4
Don't do it. No one will give you back the lifetime you spend in the car. Not to mention the costs for 2 [KFZ].
 

Benutzer 1001

2023-05-30 06:34:54
  • #5
I often joke with friends and colleagues that in the current times I would even move further out to the countryside if I can no longer afford something in the city.

I always say there must be a primary school, shopping options like Lidl or Aldi, and a pediatrician who is not about to kick the bucket. Two cars are then mandatory.

And Corona has shown how great a property with a playground is.

The rest would not matter to me..

We already live in a similar community with 8,000 inhabitants and our children are already there.

But I always thought a maximum of 30 minutes by car on country roads. If I had to deal with city traffic or train and transfers now, oh dear..
A small example: kindergarten calls "your child has fallen, please pick up, or your child has vomited" and then you would first have to pack everything, wait for the train, and make the trip back, never.

One of you two should work at least directly on site.

One more small hint, depending on the village community it will be difficult to integrate, they have known each other since childhood.
 

xMisterDx

2023-05-30 09:21:04
  • #6
Well. Then there can be, not entirely unrealistic, but also the scenario: daycare calls "child has fallen or has vomited" and looking at Google Maps says for the return trip 2h15 because there’s been an accident on the highway again. You don’t even have to drive on the highway yourself. If there’s trouble on the A2 between Braunschweig and Hannover somewhere and you have a full closure, then you can’t even slip a sheet of paper between the cars on the country roads around Lehrte and Peine anymore. He says in the opening post that the way by train already takes over an hour, with the car 15-20 minutes longer so 1h20.
 
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