Windows and doors from a single source or not? – Experiences?

  • Erstellt am 2025-06-18 09:36:44

HuppelHuppel

2025-06-18 13:22:09
  • #1


May I ask what is bad about modern PVC windows? According to Google, their lifespan is supposed to be around 25-40 years. I would possibly only worry about the foiling on colored frames.
 

nordanney

2025-06-18 13:46:17
  • #2
Basically nothing. But didn't claim that either. You can also buy a lift-and-slide door or front door in plastic. But for these areas, there are better-suited frame materials - namely aluminum. Better leave out the 25. 40 years is not a problem at all.
 

HuppelHuppel

2025-06-18 14:17:32
  • #3


If I interpret his post correctly, he also chooses aluminum for the windows -> Average Joe buys PVC windows -> prefers cheaper and more frequent replacements.

"I myself would consistently choose aluminum, but average Joe has too much money and prefers cheap and more frequent replacements)."
 

11ant

2025-06-18 14:18:25
  • #4
As a former window dealer (all materials) and manufacturer (aluminum only), I don’t need to ask Google. PVC, as its common name suggests, is a plastic. The durability in terms of decay time is more of an ecological than an economic argument against PVC. Technically, plastic windows do not need to be replaced noticeably earlier, but visually they do: PVC windows look so fresh in the first three years that even I, as a professional, can only see the difference to aluminum in the surface with the right glasses. But after about 15 to 20 years, PVC windows look as if the frames have been scrubbed with abrasive cleaner during window cleaning due to embrittlement caused by evaporated plasticizers. Aluminum windows, on the other hand, still look factory new after 50 years. For colored frames, you don’t need to use foil with PVC; co-extrusion is clearly the better way. And aluminum can also be foiled; wood look is only convincingly achieved with powder coating but at disproportionate cost.
 

HuppelHuppel

2025-06-18 14:24:30
  • #5


Thank you. My wife wants gray windows (inside and outside), and in the end, the extra cost of plastic + foiling compared to aluminum might not be that high after all...

I think coextrusion is good, but it probably isn't done that often?
 

11ant

2025-06-18 14:53:59
  • #6

Most women have advantages that more than fully compensate for such quirks. PVC is still offered significantly cheaper than aluminum even when foiled. I wouldn’t want any foiling, not on the inside either. 7016 is the new plain/ordinary (and in my opinion won’t stay in fashion forever). Aluminum looks most elegant in bitter chocolate brown; anthracite doesn’t even come close. When exactly the new bicolor trend will come, my crystal ball is still cloudy. But that will more likely be an avant-garde trend than a mainstream one.

That’s similar to thinking for yourself / forming your own opinion and taste. Also good, but not a bestseller. Coextrusion also requires willingness to compromise; suitable granulates are not found by the “perfumers” for every conceivable shade.
 

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