Windowpane) never replaceable again

@Peanuts

I find you - to put it mildly - presumptuous regarding your assessment of my work! Sort of like I'm the poor sheep being led to the slaughter.

People are not machines, they make mistakes, they don't always think of everything at all times. In your execution plans it is very clearly visible where and which window is installed in the townhouse; probably it even says "no roller shutter" there. But you surely have discussed the lighting of the townhouse. If I remember some of your first posts here correctly, you weren’t the easiest conversation partner. So there are the possibilities that your planner considered you smart enough that he didn’t explicitly point out the disadvantages of such a window solution or he simply forgot. Neither describes a defect.

And because you come up with a change _after_ the window installation, whose timely implementation only you could have initiated—which would have only cost the extra price of the film or frosting—you’re looking for someone to blame who has to bear the necessary additional costs? I’m sure you have a mirror


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Bauexperte

I did not judge your work, but your attitude. As I said, most people build a house in their lifetime and in your opinion they simply didn’t think enough if they don’t see every pitfall on the plan? I did not complain that there is no roller shutter on the window or that it obviously can’t be opened behind the stairs. I also emphasized that this is less about changing the windowpane but what happens if it breaks and MUST be replaced! That this then doesn’t work without chipping work may be casually mentioned by the architect/planner in passing. That the layman doesn’t notice it on the plan because he (in your eyes) can’t think is, in contrast, very arrogant in my opinion, but I guess one sees it that way and another the other way. No one said that no one ever makes a mistake, on the contrary. But then one should also stand up for it.

Shouldn't the window actually be shatterproof? At least it is with us, so that when you fall down the stairs you don't also immediately leave the house.

Is that mandatory? You would really have to mess up badly here, and even then you wouldn’t fall more than a meter deep on the outside.

Is that mandatory?

If there is no railing inside, I suppose so. I was asked by the tiler whether a railing would be added there or if the pane is shatterproof. Since no railing was supposed to be installed, I looked again in our construction documents to see if the window is shatterproof. In our case, the window strip is divided and the lower part is shatterproof.

OK, that would be another question... But as I said, apart from possibly cuts, I see no danger here...

I did not judge your work, but your attitude.

One is based on the other.

As I said, most people build a house in their lifetime and in your opinion they simply did not think enough if they do not see every pitfall on the plan?

Nobody expects – not even I – from you to recognize real planning errors; for me, however, based on what you write, no planning error is visible. You have discussed your townhouse and its lighting with your planner; so you were aware that the staircase would be positioned in front.

I had also emphasized that this is less about changing the window pane, but what happens if it breaks and MUST be replaced!

Then it "would" initially be the window fitter’s problem how he wants to replace the window. Again – this is no big deal; it just takes longer, as I have already described.

That this then is not possible without chipping work ....

Says who?

That the layman does not notice it on the plan because he (in your eyes) cannot think I find very arrogant in contrast, but I guess one sees it that way, another differently.

Your introduction "A question to possible lawyers or people who have had similar experiences" annoys me because it is typical. You do not ask for solutions, let alone that you would have initially sought a conversation with your planner, which would be the best way. At the same time, you get outraged and portray yourself as the poor, conned builder. If you want to describe my interpretation of your description as arrogant, fine. I have been called worse. For me, it appears that you want to construct a defect as secondary because you "might" decide on frosted glass and because it does not seem sufficient to you that you project a "possible" broken glass into the future. Meanwhile, you approved the execution and certainly noticed that the staircase is located in front of the light strip. And because it is also typical, you bring in an example by hearsay as an opinion reinforcer, which cannot contribute anything to clarification but supposedly fulfilled the goal of a "bad" planner. By the way, a hidden defect means what is in the description: hidden and _not_ visible to the eye. Rhineland greetings