Whom to entrust with the room-wise heating load calculation?

  • Erstellt am 2020-02-02 12:23:02

hegi___

2020-02-02 17:51:59
  • #1
The problem is that most heating installers design according to DIN 12831 and thus make it too large. As a result, the heat pump does not necessarily operate in the efficiency range. But with larger heat pumps, you can also earn more. Cheap designs can also be found on eBay Kleinanzeigen. I think no one will want to afford a design from the TGA office here for over 1000 euros. Installers currently do not perform room-by-room design. Why should they? It is ERR prescribed, so they can save themselves the effort.
 

Specki

2020-02-02 18:35:02
  • #2


Then we are back to the questions I asked in the second post.
Where can I find plumbers who do and can do what makes sense and not just what is actually mandatory?
That will probably not be easy.
But it is mostly recommended that way in the three large German forums dealing with house construction, etc. Only nowhere does it say where to find someone who can do it the way it is recommended. There are experts who can do it themselves, but those will be very few. Especially through the forums, the number of people who even know about it and would like to implement it that way is increasing. Now you just have to know who can implement something like that for you.

That's how I feel now. After all I've read about the topic, I really want it to be done properly. And everywhere it says that the heat pump is not as easy as a gas boiler. So I would also like to award the contract to someone who really understands what they are doing and can provide references specifically in the topic: heat pump with room-specific heating load calculation and low supply temperature.

Best regards
Specki
 

hegi___

2020-02-02 19:04:24
  • #3
Then all you have left is to pick up the phone and call everyone who has heating in their name and ask? Alternatively: Have the layout done on the internet and present it to the heating engineer to have it executed. It may not be met with enthusiasm, but the likelihood of ultimately getting a coherent overall concept is higher.
 

Specki

2020-02-02 19:28:45
  • #4
Sure, I'll ask all the regional ones here. At least the ones that appeal to me. But from everything you read in the forums, it would be almost like hitting the jackpot if one of them knows that and actually does it like that. I still have time. For now, just keep your eyes and ears open.
 

guckuck2

2020-02-02 19:34:11
  • #5
I honestly find it a bit overdramatic. Simply specify a maximum installation spacing of 10 cm everywhere, 5 cm in the bathroom, and install everything that can be installed. If you want 24 degrees in the bathroom, lay another wall or add an electric heater.
 

face26

2020-02-02 20:12:08
  • #6
Before you find an installer who "cooperates," it's better to just design what is feasible. I don't find that elegant, though; in some rooms you probably end up with a very large overlap and have to throttle significantly. I can understand the concerns; it was and still is the same for me. The selection is not that large due to the workload. If you come from the start with expectations that are uncomfortable for the installer, you might only get defensive offers. Finding one who has flexibility is already something valuable. Calculate the heating load room by room yourself with Excel and the [EnEV] data and design the underfloor heating yourself. It takes some time, but you don't have to be an engineer to manage that.
 

Similar topics
10.12.2009Subsidies for KFW55 and Sole/Water Heat Pump15
26.08.2013Which heat pump is most suitable for our new building?13
01.07.2013But no heat pump in a single-family house?15
07.04.2014Is new construction possible without solar and without a heat pump?20
24.03.2014Heating proof: Heat load calculation according to DIN 12831 or DIN 4708?10
01.08.2014Water-bearing wood stove (supplement to the air-water heat pump and controlled residential ventilation with heat recovery)?10
23.02.2015Air-water heat pump with solar thermal and fireplace? Cost/benefit/meaning34
03.06.2016Trench collector brine-water heat pump or air-water heat pump?49
12.01.2019New construction - Energy consumption of the heat pump / electric auxiliary heater19
05.12.2020Gas with solar thermal? Or heat pump with photovoltaics? Consultation149
02.04.2020Heating load calculation 10.3 kW, is a 9.5 kW air-to-water heat pump sufficient?29
08.07.2020LWZ 8 CS Premium combi made of air-water heat pump, controlled residential ventilation and hot water storage tank15
03.05.2021Air-water heat pump in KFW55 house / heating load, standards?13
25.04.2022Heating Concept Air-Water Heat Pump Single-Family House 2 Persons - Offer from Heating Technician?15
15.11.2022Tecalor 8.5 Air-Water Heat Pump: Warm water - not hot in the morning21
11.08.2023Purchase advice, heat pump comparison: Daikin or Vaillant?19
07.10.2023How to plan heating with a heat pump in new construction?14

Oben