Whom to entrust with the room-wise heating load calculation?

  • Erstellt am 2020-02-02 12:23:02

hegi___

2020-02-04 09:31:46
  • #1
As said, the efficiency loss is significantly greater. If you downplay the pump costs that much, according to your argument it makes even less sense to do without modulation.

Moreover, cycling reduces the lifespan of the heat pump.



Why shouldn't you be able to achieve a low installation height with a stapler solution as well?
 

guckuck2

2020-02-04 09:56:10
  • #2


I downplay it because 16 hours per day is nonsense, even with modulating, rather long-running heat pumps.

Yes, cycling reduces lifespan. But when does a heat pump cycle in a harmful sense? 3, 5, 50, 200 cycles per day? You read that the compressor is designed for 100,000 starts. With 25 years of use, that corresponds to 11 cycles per day. The people who really present themselves in forums with cycling heat pumps sometimes have over 100 cycles per day. That is bad. But heating 3-4 times and adding hot water heating twice a day is far from a problematic situation regarding durability.

So please keep things in perspective. What you say is certainly all correct in theory, but the effect is not significant.

Anyone following threads on the topic of heat pumps here and reading my posts knows that I am really no fan of this “main thing is warm” industry and yes, there are a few rules to observe.

But this obsession with optimizing down to the last fraction of a percent is no longer sensible. The economic viability is hard to prove, and it also puts the executing craftsman in the impossible position of having to guarantee this excellence. Because all the great calculations are based on a lot of parameters and assumptions that do not always correspond to reality. And then the well-informed building owner stands next to it and wants a warranty because the Tacco shows 0.1 l/min too little flow.

Everyone has their hobby, but a little less drama would really be good. It only causes uncertainty.

Do you remember the report about the craftsman in Bavaria who no longer wants to serve Audi engineers? The statements on the topic of heat pumps here tend strongly in that direction.
 

Pinky0301

2020-02-04 09:59:03
  • #3
The retrofit solution is about 1cm high (plus a thin layer of leveling compound). So far, I have not seen any stapling system that achieves this.
 

hegi___

2020-02-04 12:44:36
  • #4


You can discuss the pump current and the last little percent, but if temperatures and device output are too high, you noticeably feel it in both operating costs and purchase price.

Everyone can decide for themselves whether they want to have junk installed by companies that have no clue.

In this case, I would even be grateful to know which company to avoid if I were a customer.



Okay, that is really very flat.

But you do know that the costs for retrofitting a surface heating system are eligible for BAFA funding?
 

annab377

2020-02-04 13:00:08
  • #5
If only one knew beforehand. Surely there are also heating installers who do this very conscientiously (with room-by-room heat load calculation), but you first have to find them and have them relatively close by.
 

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