Unfilled bricks and soundproofing - looking for experiences

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K1300S

2021-07-17 08:12:37
  • #1
However, I cannot confirm the poor sound insulation between floors from our current house either. We do have filled bricks, but the construction of the concrete ceiling is as described here: the ceiling is recessed by about 20 cm all around, and in front of that are insulation and an unfilled brick. I find the sound insulation from outside okay (not great), and the same applies to the interior walls, although different wall thicknesses of course become noticeable there.
 

K1300S

2021-07-17 08:21:30
  • #2

Certainly. In the past, people simply left some air between the interior and exterior walls; today, the (enlarged) gap is filled with insulating wool. We chose this approach partly due to our aversion to ETICS. It's a bit more expensive than ETICS with plaster, but you get dedicated experts for the different tasks: sand-lime brick for bearing loads and soundproofing, insulating wool for the ... well, insulation (ta-da!), and clinker as a robust weather shield (and additional soundproofing since it also has quite some mass), which can also store heat well.
 

Snowy36

2021-07-18 00:02:47
  • #3
So if you only have okay sound insulation with filled bricks, then it is due to the windows and not the brick.
 

K1300S

2021-07-18 06:40:48
  • #4
I dare to doubt that, but thank you very much for your analysis. It is probably simply because I previously lived in a house with walls made of sand-lime brick plus clinker. That is just a whole different level. And honestly, from a purely physical point of view, I don't see why the rather airy filling should make such a huge difference. This also seems to be confirmed by the data sheets (here from Wienerberger): T7-MW: 47.2 dB T8-P: 46.4 dB T10-36.5: 45.5 dB Yes, the unfilled T10 is the worst of the three, but the difference is not huge (despite the logarithmic scale).
 

K1300S

2021-07-18 07:24:47
  • #5
For comparison: Only the 15 cm load-bearing shell of our sand-lime brick wall already achieves a sound insulation value of 54.6 dB. Including insulation and with clinker brick, you can add another 8 dB. (As I just see, the exterior plaster of a brick wall at the top is already included. Those rascals ...)
 

Bookstar

2021-07-18 09:27:26
  • #6
The difference is really huge. Still, standard windows are around 32 dB. With today's window sizes, the wall is almost irrelevant.
 

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