Total cost for house - 100-130 sqm

The property is being sold by a company, the developer is free. This company is a "land developer and infrastructure provider." I assume that the real estate transfer tax is therefore only applicable to the land. However, I do not want to discuss this further here. If there is still a need for discussion, please start a new thread.

So, let's begin: I have nothing against AMD-ATI, I meant radon exposure (see among others Wikipedia). This concerns not only certain areas of Dresden but large parts of central Germany, Bavaria, or Rhineland-Palatinate.

@Bauexperte: I would like to know what is behind this abstract term Baunebenkosten? What am I paying 35-40k for that is not included in the price of the developed land, basement, or house? That is about 10% of the investment sum.

@Wastl: What is cheap about 200 EUR per sqm? 20 EUR per sqm would be cheap.
Recently, land in the nearby area was still sold for 180 EUR per sqm, but at that time we did not want to build yet and there were only plots above 1,100 sqm. That then led to 200-300k for a plot. I absolutely do not see why one should pay more for the land than for the actual house.

As far as I know, there are no contaminated sites. At the moment, the area is cultivated farmland; I hope that there is no heavy metal or other contamination hidden in our food. I will find out in due course, but please assume for the further calculation that no contaminated sites are present.

@Musketier: As far as I know there was no uranium mining here. Of course, in the immediate vicinity (I would estimate 5 km). But as far as I understand, the radon exposure is not directly related to uranium mining. As I said, large parts of central Germany, Bavaria, Rhineland-Palatinate, and other areas in Germany are considered risk areas where the basement must be specially sealed against radon. This is not about isolated contamination.

One more thing about infrastructure costs. There are already residential areas in all four cardinal directions. There is still a larger open space virtually in the middle. So I think the infrastructure costs will at least not be unusually high for the developer. So for the following calculation, let's first assume the 200 EUR per sqm is fully developed. Once we have an approximate cost idea, of course, we will investigate and calculate in more detail.

Yes, let's leave the topic of property tax aside. What's the point of all that googling when the original poster can simply inquire at the municipality themselves? The same applies to development costs. We also purchased a fully developed plot in a new development area. We had to pay development costs of exactly 26,000 (a field right in the middle of construction areas!) But as far as I know, it depends on the municipality whether these are deducted from the purchase price or not. In any case, they naturally charge you for it (whether included in the purchase price or not...) In return, you also get a street. Additional construction costs definitely include supply costs for electricity, possibly gas, water connections, and telecommunications. Here in Lower Saxony, it's about 8,000, which you should budget for. Building permits, separate expert reports, earthworks, soil excavation, soil removal, further civil engineering work for rainwater, construction road on the property, and so on. In the forum, Bauexperte has compiled everything. Check it out yourself, I don't have the link handy. If the money for a single-family house is too tight, why not plan a terraced house or semi-detached house? You don't always need to be able to go all the way around; a small piece of your own space is usually enough—especially if you can afford to maintain that little spot, for example with paving so that you can enjoy the garden and the yard.

Hello Grym,

We also searched for a plot in Dresden for 2 years and therefore know the development areas and the companies behind them a bit... Could you tell us a few more details about the development area?

Your description sounds like the development area of In×××××un Senn near the Ramada Hotel or like the former sports field near Klosterteichplatz. In the first case, the plots are free from developers. The real estate transfer tax should therefore not be an issue and only apply to the land. In the second case, caution is advised... the provider cooperates with a house construction company that may exclusively market some of the plots. In these cases, the tax would be due on both the house and land. Radon is an issue in both development areas. Contaminated sites in the second one on at least 3 plots.

Both areas have already been delayed by a year... and should actually have been ready for construction in 2013. I only believe the prices when the sale really starts, Mr. Senn did mention the figures in his last newsletter, but even the plots at Pfaffenberg cost that much in 2011 and prices are still rising... and the companies also have ongoing costs that need to be covered. The plots on the sports field are more expensive anyway.

Your house price is very optimistic. We are at 275,000 pure construction costs for 134 m2 turnkey with 2 full floors, 36.5 cm aerated concrete, gable roof, KfW70, geothermal energy, central ventilation system with heat recovery, paved driveway and terrace, and partially finished attic - without a basement, without painting and without floor coverings. Here you should question exactly what is really included in the quoted price. Additional costs are also easily €40,000. We are already well over €50,000: €14k tax (developer), €4,500 notary, €1,000 court and small stuff, €10,000 new kitchen, €8,000 house connections (expected), €4,000 painting, €4,000 remaining floor coverings, €3,000 building expert, €1,500 subsequently planned additional windows, at least €3,000 extras at sampling, €9,000 later for the garage, etc...

So it’s best to get exact information about the expected costs again...

Best regards,

JohnF

Yes, it's about the Kauschaer streets. The new area is supposed to be sold for 200 EUR per sqm, at Pfaffenberg it was, as far as I remember, still 180 EUR per sqm. On the other hand, the development costs are probably lower for larger plots. There you only have to connect once per 1100 sqm, with smaller plots (550 sqm) there are two connections per 1100 sqm. If you have a few tips regarding new development areas, I would be happy if you could send me some information - feel free to do so via PM.

oh yes, that's exactly what it's about for me here, of course only in a first step, I want to get clear about the expected costs. Above all, these nebulous incidental construction costs are still not clear to me. You can relatively easily find out the land and incidental land costs. Basement and house can be derived from quotes, but what and especially in what amount are there incidental construction costs. ypg has already written that Bauexperte compiled something on that. I'll look it up tomorrow.

No, oh no... now I feel like I'm being made a fool of!!!

It may seem that you haven't really dealt with the topic of house planning yet (ancillary construction costs), but I still have to read in another forum that you have a salary of 5000 - 7000.

And then it’s supposed to fail because of the ancillary construction costs, which have to/should be set at 30000 - 35000???

I haven't read everything anymore... you are very talkative there... here it got a bit off track because of the tax...

You are unsure about the foundation costs... then just read up in the forum... 8 out of 10 posts have the same concerns as you, but unfortunately do not have anywhere near your salary.

Still forgot:

...NO KfW70 ...

No, of course not! When you want to build, a completely different standard applies, namely at least Energy Saving Ordinance 2014... at least as good as KfW 70, corresponding costs will probably be updated in the building specifications at some point - just my layman's opinion on that.