Termination of cooperation with the architect after LF4 - What next?

  • Erstellt am 2020-06-07 13:16:09

K1300S

2020-06-08 08:37:18
  • #1
Generally speaking, it should not be a problem to find a general contractor who builds the input planning. Of course, execution planning still needs to come from somewhere, but that is a solvable problem. You could of course also find another architect for the further implementation (execution planning, tendering, construction management).

PS: To my knowledge, "Phase" is still always spelled with 'P' – or am I no longer up to date?
 

laumar01

2020-06-08 09:32:21
  • #2
Thank you very much for your answers!



Of course, Leistungsphase with "Ph". Embarrassing! oops:



Yes, the design quality is right and was also the main reason for us to plan with an independent architect. Unfortunately, it only became clear during the collaboration that the architect's strength lies solely there and not in project management. Therefore, further cooperation would be like "running into misfortune with open eyes." It is clear to us that it is much better when detailed and design planning comes from one source. Hence this thread. Maybe we can minimize the disadvantages through your tips.



I agree with you. Execution planner and site manager should now be even more identical. We also considered a general contractor for that reason, to have everything from one source. If I understand your post correctly, you see that rather critically with a general contractor. What would you advise us then? An independent site manager who does execution planning, tendering, site management including coordination and acceptance with us?



We had also considered that. But we fear that an architect, compared to a general contractor, may be even less willing to come to terms with the planning of another architect.
 

K1300S

2020-06-08 09:37:46
  • #3
That is what distinguishes the artist from the professional.
 

PyneBite

2020-06-08 09:44:00
  • #4
How about finding a civil engineer who takes over the construction and project management? He can either help you with the tendering or with the selection and discussions with a [GU].

Since you save the architect's salary for the further execution, there should be a free budget available here.
 

K1300S

2020-06-08 09:46:24
  • #5
But someone still has to do the [Ausführungsplanung].
 

laumar01

2020-06-08 10:16:24
  • #6


We were already considering hiring a construction supervisor to support us during the inspections. Could this be saved if the civil engineer takes over this responsibility?

Yes, the costs for construction management by the architect (service phase 8?) can then be used elsewhere. If we were only building with a general contractor, these costs would probably be included there. With a civil engineer, we would pay him, and the general contractor would not be allowed to charge these costs, right? Would a general contractor even work with an external construction manager, or are they rather interested in keeping everything in-house? This would then argue in favor of rather linking a civil engineer with individual trades?

How does the cost comparison generally look between a general contractor + external construction supervisor for inspections vs. civil engineer + individual trades?
 

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