Special repayment, saving or consumption?

  • Erstellt am 2020-02-02 19:14:09

Stonymelony

2020-10-09 11:11:19
  • #1
That is exactly the reason why I repay like this. I don’t want to have debts because no one knows what tomorrow holds. I’m not in the mood for financial pressure, I don’t want to be dependent and hope that everything will continue as it has so far. And just because I have no debts doesn’t mean I don’t have assets or am not building any. The house was recently estimated at just under €600,000, whereas there is less than €45,000 remaining debt – I think you can be more than satisfied with that. Additionally, I’ve been paying into an ETF savings plan for years, and as soon as the house is paid off and hopefully the real estate bubble bursts soon and prices fall, I will look out for apartments/houses to rent out. Then the tenant will nicely pay the installment. I could do that now too, but a) prices are way too high and b) it’s too risky – maybe bad luck with a rent dodger and then due to double burdens you might no longer be able to meet your obligations. When the house is paid off and the tenant can’t pay, I can still step in without having to worry.

Yes, I am rather the low-risk and security-conscious type. That works best for me and I can sleep peacefully.

And what guckuck2 writes, in my view, is not thought through enough. What good is it to you if over time you make €20,000, but I only make €10,000 from the special repayment, but I am finished with the loans 20 years before you and suddenly and forever have €1,500 more available monthly plus the special repayment amount, while you still have to service the loans? I made up the €10,000 more that you made in 6 months.
 

exto1791

2020-10-09 11:14:42
  • #2


Exactly right! Besides, you can immediately reinvest the money you have available "earlier." In my opinion, guckuck2’s method looks nice in theory but often looks completely different in practice. Your approach is not wrong, no question!! Please don’t misunderstand. However, it is still risk-prone regarding most likely 70-80% of families currently managing such a construction project.
 

Musketier

2020-10-09 11:14:46
  • #3




Wrong. After at least 10 years you have the option for special repayment (§489 Building Code), so yes, you can simply partially or fully repay after 15 years, provided you have not taken out a new loan after 10 years.
 

exto1791

2020-10-09 11:17:19
  • #4


Yep exactly. But you also have to manage to pay off the loan completely after 10 years first... nowadays the average term is 30-35 years. Sure, if an inheritance comes in, I can pay off the loan earlier, but if I don’t expect an inheritance, I have to commit to a new loan again. So I cannot say with 100% certainty that I can pay off a loan completely at any time, because I might have to take out another loan after 10 years, and EVEN possibly again after those 10 years!!

And here we are again at the mentioned risk...

And then remember: most investment options yield only a low return after 10 years. If a financial crisis occurs within these 10 years, you might have to leave the amount invested for 15-20 years to even get a decent return. Then no one knows what interest rates we will have in 10-15 years?? I can also counter that risk by making special repayments.

So many ifs and buts that I simply don’t have with a special repayment... That’s why my thesis about low-risk or security-needing and risk-loving is quite correct.
 

Musketier

2020-10-09 11:24:51
  • #5


Who really took out a loan for 10 years? Most are at least 20 years. That means I'm not forced to restructure after 10 years.
If I am simultaneously saving in ETFs now and know that I want to repay a larger sum in a good market situation, then I don't restructure after 10 years, I just look at how the market stands and then either fully cancel or partially cancel the loan. The saved capital doesn't fall from the sky.
With a 20-year fixed interest period, you have 10 years to find a good time for partial repayment.
 

haydee

2020-10-09 11:27:49
  • #6
I know builders who know that they are paying off their 30 years, but have actually only agreed to 10 years. Reason: longer costs too much
 

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