Da Bayer
2019-01-12 10:25:54
- #1
Hello everyone.
A short introduction about me:
I’m Alex, originally from Lower Bavaria, and currently living in Baden-Württemberg near the Swiss border (for about 5 years). I’m 25 years old, trained as a concrete and reinforced concrete builder, then completed my technician degree in construction and have been working as a construction manager for 5 years. During this time, I worked about 1.5 years as a construction manager in residential construction (mainly house building). So I bring some craftsmanship skills as well as an understanding of house construction.
Current situation:
I currently live with my girlfriend, 22 years old, at my grandmother’s house. She is doing her second apprenticeship right now and also studying part-time. About 5 years ago, I completely renovated the attic apartment and invested about 20K. I don’t pay rent or utilities. If you want to put it that way, I pay with my labor, like chopping wood for two households (own forest available), shopping, running errands, etc.
Financial situation:
As I said, I work as a construction manager and earn about €2,000 net. Last year, I was able to save about €1,710 on average per month. My equity currently amounts to about €180,000 and is increasing. Land is available.
Now to my big question, SAVE OR BUILD?
My goal for about 4 years now is to build my dream house by the time I’m 30. If I add everything up, I’ll have about €290,000 available at the start of construction. My girlfriend, no idea, I think about €50,000. Planned construction costs are somewhere around €450,000. Construction costs for a proper house with a basement were about €390,000 turnkey including incidental construction costs (excluding landscaping) about 2 years ago when I was still working in house building. Now the crux: when I look at today’s inflation and construction cost developments, it makes me sick. So the question is whether I should already build turnkey or just use my equity to build the shell.
Problems from my point of view with turnkey building:
No desire. High financial risk. Overload at work (an average of 50 hours a week, sometimes 60 or more in peak times).
Problems from my point of view with the shell construction:
Where do you start and where do you stop? Obviously, shell, roof, windows, and planning for electrical, sanitary, etc. must all be done. But you should consider in planning that technology progresses quickly in many trades, and what is planned and laid in terms of pipes can’t easily be changed. Furthermore, there are trades you pay twice for, like scaffolding, etc. What about damage and vandalism? I could list many more points.
I would be very grateful for your assessment and answers. Of course, I’m always available for questions.
Finally, I still have the question:
Many starters here in the forum state a net income of 3, 4, 5, or even 6,000 €. Guys, what kind of jobs do you have? My income is laughable, and I’m not standing behind an assembly line or anything like that.
Best regards, Alex
A short introduction about me:
I’m Alex, originally from Lower Bavaria, and currently living in Baden-Württemberg near the Swiss border (for about 5 years). I’m 25 years old, trained as a concrete and reinforced concrete builder, then completed my technician degree in construction and have been working as a construction manager for 5 years. During this time, I worked about 1.5 years as a construction manager in residential construction (mainly house building). So I bring some craftsmanship skills as well as an understanding of house construction.
Current situation:
I currently live with my girlfriend, 22 years old, at my grandmother’s house. She is doing her second apprenticeship right now and also studying part-time. About 5 years ago, I completely renovated the attic apartment and invested about 20K. I don’t pay rent or utilities. If you want to put it that way, I pay with my labor, like chopping wood for two households (own forest available), shopping, running errands, etc.
Financial situation:
As I said, I work as a construction manager and earn about €2,000 net. Last year, I was able to save about €1,710 on average per month. My equity currently amounts to about €180,000 and is increasing. Land is available.
Now to my big question, SAVE OR BUILD?
My goal for about 4 years now is to build my dream house by the time I’m 30. If I add everything up, I’ll have about €290,000 available at the start of construction. My girlfriend, no idea, I think about €50,000. Planned construction costs are somewhere around €450,000. Construction costs for a proper house with a basement were about €390,000 turnkey including incidental construction costs (excluding landscaping) about 2 years ago when I was still working in house building. Now the crux: when I look at today’s inflation and construction cost developments, it makes me sick. So the question is whether I should already build turnkey or just use my equity to build the shell.
Problems from my point of view with turnkey building:
No desire. High financial risk. Overload at work (an average of 50 hours a week, sometimes 60 or more in peak times).
Problems from my point of view with the shell construction:
Where do you start and where do you stop? Obviously, shell, roof, windows, and planning for electrical, sanitary, etc. must all be done. But you should consider in planning that technology progresses quickly in many trades, and what is planned and laid in terms of pipes can’t easily be changed. Furthermore, there are trades you pay twice for, like scaffolding, etc. What about damage and vandalism? I could list many more points.
I would be very grateful for your assessment and answers. Of course, I’m always available for questions.
Finally, I still have the question:
Many starters here in the forum state a net income of 3, 4, 5, or even 6,000 €. Guys, what kind of jobs do you have? My income is laughable, and I’m not standing behind an assembly line or anything like that.
Best regards, Alex