Question about surveying a property regarding the input plan

  • Erstellt am 2015-06-25 22:31:35

Sebastian79

2015-06-26 11:35:41
  • #1
For the preliminary site plan, you don't necessarily have to use a surveyor - for example, in our case, the architect did it on site himself. It even matched up when the surveyor measured in the batter board. And you also don't need a surveyor for the batter board - the structural builder can do that too.

It's just not really recommended because it should/must match what the official surveyor measures for the land registry later.

That's how it was explained to me and that's how we did it.
 

laemat

2015-06-26 11:39:35
  • #2


What should I answer you now.... yes, what you describe is one possibility but not the rule, nor economically sensible. Apart from that, Grundstück is a land register term, Flurstück is a cadastre term. If you already start counting peas, then write it correctly or leave it.
 

DG

2015-06-26 11:44:57
  • #3
Hello ,

well, things are getting mixed up here again ...

1. Surveying is a matter for the individual federal states. Anyone who, based on their experiences in MV ( ), draws conclusions about the procedure in BY and makes legally binding statements, can only fail, because the marking obligation is also regulated on a state-specific basis. So looking into the cadastral law of MV does not help at all in BY, therefore the post has been edited.

2. If the property you want to purchase from the municipality or have already purchased already has a parcel number/own plot designation and the survey was carried out recently, the data of the property is available in sufficient quality and can be obtained by the entitled persons partly free of charge, partly for a fee, and used for further processing.

3. The mere indication of the costs amounting to €1,300.- says nothing about whether these costs are justified or not. What is decisive is what services are included in this cost breakdown. Basically, for a freshly surveyed property in a newly created building area, the data can be obtained digitally for a small fee and processed further without local measurement/control (exceptions/deviations expressly possible). Only the height survey may possibly have to be carried out before construction begins. You are free to obtain your own offer from a surveyor from BY, compare it, and forward their data to your general contractor/architect. However, it is then advisable to look very carefully at the scope of services, otherwise you are comparing apples and oranges.

4. Regarding the scope of services for a single-family house, in general:

    [*]Plot division (already carried out here, if no local boundary markings are found, obtain the document of the boundary record or inquire at the municipality whether a so-called "postponed marking" has been carried out. Data/information can also be provided by the surveyor performing the division, in BY generally the surveying authority/"Feldgeschworene", the professional profile of the publicly appointed surveyor does not exist in BY)
    [*]Site plan for building application (optional – can usually be prepared by the architect or surveyor, however, the surveyor should provide reliable property data, i.e. heights and property coordinates. The effort involved is usually manageable and can be done for a few hundred euros. A site plan for the building application by a surveyor/official body can also be legally required, then request an individual cost breakdown)
    [*]Rough staking out (usually not necessary, can be appropriate with unclear boundary lines/strong terrain relief)
    [*]Fine staking out by surveyor (advisable, usually not mandatory, can be carried out by the builder or also by oneself, but then there is a difficult liability situation in case of damage. Staking out by publicly appointed surveyors/surveying office can be mandated by authorities, then mandatory)
    [*]Building surveying (transfer of the finished building into the cadastral map, has nothing to do with staking out, must be carried out mandatorily by the owner)

Little can be said about the costs either, because some services are charged according to fees, others according to fee schedules depending on the federal state, and as described, the required scope of services also depends on the specific construction project and the respective official requirements.

Best regards
Dirk Grafe
 

Bauexperte

2015-06-26 11:45:14
  • #4

Nothing from me -

to the reading/writing users something about your professional qualification, so they can evaluate your answers

Rhenish greetings
 

laemat

2015-06-26 11:45:17
  • #5
Everything is uncritical as long as you don't have to observe setback distances. If your house is supposed to stand exactly 3m parallel to the parcel boundary, you inevitably have to get a surveyor, who else should show you the boundary points. For a house investment, the ~500 euros are not significant, but you can be sure that the house is positioned correctly.
 

Sebastian79

2015-06-26 11:48:30
  • #6
This is how it was with us - boundary distances had to be maintained (16 corners with garage had to be defined). 150 euros later, the batter board of the shell builder was in place with surveying assistance from the engineer.
 

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