Preliminary floor plan of the planned house - feedback?

Well, we did not change the floor plan with the seller, but with the architect of the house construction company, and he had some other alternatives and ideas for us on how we could have sensibly modified the floor plan. But that is certainly not the case with every show home provider, and often the seller just moves things around pointlessly, I freely admit that. That is why it is important to really take a lot of time in planning and selecting the house manufacturer/architect.

I don’t want to leave it like that with the show house. We also chose a prefabricated house provider and a house type offered by them but were able to change everything in the interior (except load-bearing elements) and individually design the house with its rooms.

There are different kinds. Solid house builders whose catalog houses are only rough guidelines, on the basis of which more or less individual planning takes place. However, contact with the provider’s architect is limited. Often you only sit at the table with the salesperson, discuss, plan, then receive a draft with some delay, then it starts all over again. Homeowners with a concrete own vision might be quite well placed here. But it does not replace direct contact with your own architect. Then there are other providers where practically nothing can be changed.

for me the first draft was consistent

I’m sorry, but it is not! By far not!

the architect who has free rein and can do whatever he wants it probably won’t be. I simply know too well what I would like

The usual procedure is like this: The architect asks about your wishes. The answers are roughly “two bathrooms, dressing room, airy, open, special, luxurious, modern, functional ...” (Alternatively: country house, farmhouse, classic, rustic, fireplace, ...). Based on these wishes and given conditions (development plan, surroundings, tradition, budget, energy efficiency requirements, and much more), the architect then designs your house. You then iterate together on it until it fits, or you choose another architect.

It helps the architect a lot if you know what you want. But let him plan, it is his profession.

Perhaps some builders also have to be brought back down to earth (adjust wishes to the budget, the other way around is often not possible, I speak from experience).

We planned everything ourselves for almost a year and our design was actually implemented. Bien-Zenker now offers it as a bungalow in their program. ;) Unfortunately, in the end it was much too expensive for us with this provider.

Without land and a development plan, it is a very rough planning. Whether it will ultimately be allowed to be carried out is questionable. You might be disappointed then.

What is your budget? The size, the house type, and much more depend on that.

It makes no sense at all to discuss a floor plan when there isn’t even a plot of land yet. Maybe the plot is eventually situated on a slope, then you have to start all previous considerations anew, just as if it is, for example, relatively narrow and thus limits the width of the house. Of course, you can look at floor plans on the internet and then see how big, or what dimensions, the future plot should have. Everything else is pointless speculation.

Important:
We do not have a plot of land yet. This is merely a draft to estimate how much space is roughly needed.

... so you already drew without knee walls, which corresponds to a single-family house with a two-story design?! ;)
No offense, but you should read up a bit on the subject, also about the dependency between the house and the plot (development plan).

As I said, I would like to have an overview beforehand so that only minor details need to be discussed

o_O

The architect who has free rein and can act as he wishes probably won't be the case. I just know way too much about what I want :D

But you have no clue and you are overestimating yourself!

Room requirements are determined based on e.g. kitchen approx. x sqm, WC approx. y sqm, cold storage approx. z sqm, utility/storage room approx. x sqm, living/dining approx. x sqm, 2 children's rooms approx. x sqm, etc. You add up the numbers.

Regards, Yvonne

P.S. For a staircase, you can reserve a length of about 4 meters in a rough sketch

Hi,

I have now made the second draft (only the top part) and hope that it is already a bit better. There is no master fallen from the sky, and I am no exception to that.

Again... this is only a first rough draft in which I want to see roughly how much living space is needed and how the rooms could be arranged. Everything also has an impact on each other. I can’t just say that I want 11m² for Bath1, 8m² for Bath2, 12m² for the dressing room, 12m² for the bedroom, and 6m² for the hallway. In my opinion, that would be too simple. The distribution of the rooms also affects the areas. Not every variant fits equally well into the design, so I have to adjust length/width or change the arrangement of the rooms.

There are so many examples of... let’s call them projects... where not enough time was invested in planning beforehand. Here in beautiful Bavaria (and probably also in the rest of the country), it is currently the case that plots of land are veeeeeeeeeeery rare (100 applicants for 30 parcels, etc.). Anyone who has not clarified the financing with the bank in advance is already late when the plots are allocated. Therefore, I would now like to take some time during the period in which nothing is being dug, overturned, or built to make some preliminary considerations. If the drafts end up being rubbish and the project cannot actually be realized that way... so what... at least I will know before the bank meeting (Friday) how much living space/bathrooms/rooms/... I need and can thus better argue why I want to borrow amount XY.

By the way, we are planning with about 350k for the house + land (no basement). The land should not cost more than 100k, leaving about 250k for the house. Certainly ambitious but hopefully not impossible. If it ends up being 400k, that would also not be a disaster...