Positioning of the house on a small plot (again)

Sorry, but I would never buy a property with a general trash bin area next door. Noise, stench, vermin....

I’m not too worried about that. There are 3 neighbors who take their bins back and forth now and then. That causes manageable noise, won’t attract much vermin, and the stench won’t be noticeable (source: former cul-de-sac resident). If the space didn’t exist, they would simply put them by the roadside (as in almost every cul-de-sac). If there were 8 households, or if it was the collection point for the neighborhood, it would bother me a bit. But as it is?

It only bothers me because at least 25sqm of it is completely useless and I could use the space more effectively. With small plots, 25-30sqm really makes a difference.

Sorry, but I would never buy a property next to a general garbage bin area. Noise, stench, vermin....

Sorry, this is not a general garbage bin area. It doesn't matter what we would buy – the OP knew about it.

I just went for a walk. There are permanently about 6 times as many bins on about half the square meters here.

How do you come to the conclusion that 30sqm might be necessary for three households when I describe that the bins are only there overnight?

Ahem, I have to say that I find it somewhat presumptuous when someone thinks that something they are not involved with or see disadvantages in is superfluous. The development plan clearly states what this area is reserved for. You think you can look farther ahead at how many more houses are entitled to garbage bin spaces. Perhaps the city thinks a bit further than the current state, or maybe there is a minimum size for such planned areas. Better too big than too small. The area is fixed, and it was fixed. Incidentally, the superfluous is regulated: Look here: [ATTACH alt="IMG_1714.jpeg"]91640[/ATTACH] Look here: [ATTACH alt="IMG_1715.jpeg"]91641[/ATTACH] Look here: [ATTACH alt="IMG_1716.jpeg"]91642[/ATTACH] And if that is not enough for you, then take a closer look at the waste disposal statute of the city of Ahlen. Your example in #25, where you think that here

on about half the square meters

is deceptive. Use a scale: I see at least 6 meters in width there. The hedge alone is roughly about one meter wide. If the reserved garbage area is fenced with a hedge, you can easily subtract about 15sqm of space. By the way, the textual stipulations, which you have not posted here, state that garages may only be built within the building window. Therefore, you basically win nothing except a small leftover strip of land, which you can do little with, exactly what you are trying to oppose.

You don't have to panic and restrict your profile right away. The building land wasn't even listed there because you don't want to build (according to the profile information). No one will take your property away from you or fill the garbage there with rubbish.

By the way, the textual provisions, which you have not posted here, state that garages may only be built within the building window. In this respect, you practically gain nothing except a leftover corner of the plot, with which you can do little, so exactly what you want to counteract.

Thank you for your effort. The leftover corner is at least nicer to look at than an empty paved area. Let's just assume the status quo will remain: if I build a narrow carport south of the waste area and put a narrow house under it (not along the street), I am left with six to seven meters of "south garden" – minus the terrace and a little planting, I end up with a lawn strip of three meters. I wonder whether giving up a carport, a parking space in the front yard area (a certain percentage may be sealed), and a bicycle shed elsewhere might not be more sensible in order to at least get a small feeling of having a garden. Or else an orientation of the house towards the west-south garden.

and the garbage bin storage area located even further north would lose many square meters of garden to the north and there would only be garden strips/green strips around the house, right?

At least the remaining corner looks nicer than an empty paved area.

Isn't there a contradiction in your thinking?

I wonder whether foregoing a carport, a parking space in the front garden area (a certain proportion may be sealed)

I consider it the worst choice to give up essentials.

to at least get a little feeling of a garden.

You should focus more on your property than on the garbage area.

Or else a west-south garden orientation of the house.

As you wish.

Here are your possible sight lines with a house oriented to the south.

I am not very worried about it. These are 3 neighbors who occasionally wheel their bins back and forth. That causes manageable noise, won't attract major vermin, and the stink will not be noticeable (source: former dead-end street resident). If the space didn't exist, they would simply be placed on the roadside (as in almost every dead-end street). If it were 8 households, or the collection point for the residential area, it would concern me a bit. But as it is? It only concerns me because at least 25sqm of it is completely obsolete and I could use the space more sensibly. With the small plots, 25-30sqm really makes a difference.

The problem is the garbage truck, which pulls in all the neighborhood's trash right in front of your house. Especially when it comes as early as 6:00 a.m.