Planned kitchen ideas or comments?

I was thinking more of a makeshift shared apartment kitchen.

That was exactly my first thought. Ivar I hear you coming.

With the roundtable DM 120, an island 140 x 100 also fits.

They break easily, are expensive, and don’t really make good use of space. Sometimes a dead corner makes more sense.

Objection. That actually serves the last corner.
And yes, there certainly are also “Fiat models.”

In our first kitchen, we had the classic carousel for the corner. It has been used in the garage for over 10 years and still works.
Quality from 1996 ;)

Objection. That serves the last corner after all.

I agree with :) So, I have also often read about the "problem" with the LeMans and the better blind corner, understood it, but then also tried it out myself. And it is simply the case that pots and pans are round and also waste space in a 60 cm pull-out. So, having actually tried it out in reality, I would get fewer pots in a 60 cm with blind corner than I currently have in my LeMans.

> "just a tip. You can 'store' the microwave* above the oven in a separate upper cabinet with a flap fitting."
Thanks for the tip, that might be an option. Although we would rather not do without one of the two planned tall cabinets. A small microwave might also be "placed" in the cabinet by the terrace door.

I'll show you a picture of the cabinet as I mean it. The microwave is behind the "flap," directly above the stove. You can leave the flap open and if you want it to look neat, simply close it. Next to the tall cabinet, you can put a narrow pull-out pantry cabinet. We always find that practical for baking supplies (flour, sugar, etc.) etc. Why don't you plan in a kitchen tool (you can also represent the room there) and have access to the underlying system (cabinets, etc.), and when you're done you transfer it to your 3D program?


Where your shelf is now, I would place a large French door refrigerator. Distance between the refrigerator and the island about 1m (but not less).

I would also use the full height. We still have about 20cm? "air" above, but now I would always raise the hanging cabinets as high as possible.

"I'll show you a picture with the cabinet as I mean it. The microwave is behind the 'flap', directly above the stove. You can leave the flap open, and if it should look tidy, just close it."

Yes, that's how I understood it too. But still, you "lose" part of the (actually planned) tall cabinet volume.

"Next to the tall cabinet you can put in a narrow pull-out pantry cabinet. We always find it practical for baking stuff (flour, sugar, etc.) etc."
We have such a pull-out pantry cabinet (210 cm high, 30 cm wide), but after 25 years we never really got used to it.

"Why don’t you plan in a kitchen tool (you can represent the room there too) and have access to the underlying system (cabinets etc.) and when you're done you transfer it into your 3D program?"

Yes, that's what I'm doing now. But ultimately almost all installed cabinets (width, height, depth) are also available in these planners, as I created it.

"Where your shelf is now I would place a large French door refrigerator."
We had that idea of course, but we want to keep the option open to use this area (temporarily remove the shelf or maybe it won’t be placed there at all) for seating (putting in an additional narrow table; then the terrace door simply doesn’t open).

"I would also use the full height."
My wife is small, she advocates for low cabinet heights and few tall cabinets...