Placement of parking spaces / carport on the property

  • Erstellt am 2021-07-15 16:14:33

Hangman

2021-12-28 11:32:54
  • #1


Among other things, it is precisely because of those two puzzles that the garage idea is really not so great. You can forget about turning and maneuvering, that will not work. If you don’t believe me, find a large parking lot and recreate the situation with beer cans as boundaries... of course it’s a shame about the nice beer that won’t survive your maneuvering attempts. But even worse, I find puzzles three and four: on the one hand the protruding northeast corner of the house and the resulting drop edge to the garage driveway – that will be expensive and ugly. On the other hand, the completely useless sacrificed area in the east – especially since you need storage space, it is not sensible to sacrifice 50 sqm exclusively for the access road and another 40 sqm for the garage.

After you described the situation on site a bit more precisely, I would try to move the carport/parking space to the southeast corner of the property. Directly by the street. Specifically: move the house 2-2.5 m north and pave the entire area up to about the ridge line at as uniform a height as possible. What you then cover (carport, possibly continuing into a covered entrance area) and what you leave open (parking space) you have to decide based on the on-site situation. Same goes for the question of possibly planting areas or a “house tree” :) The goal should be to reach the front door on as uniform a height level as possible (although a few percent slope lengthwise/crosswise really is not a big deal). On the east side of the house, I would then plan a storage area completely separated from this situation (garden shed or similar). This can also be split into two sheds, one near the front door, another further northeast. If the level is lower there, a small ramp or similar must be provided toward the front door for bikes etc. Possibly you can also still adjust the house height if it is moved.

OK neighboring terrain at the front door height is indicated in the side view as 204.435. That should work well with 1 m retaining walls on the east boundary, and you would have the entire southeast corner at roughly one height.

Two more questions: is your planned floor structure really 38 cm? And do you have a front view of the house side facing the street?
 

11ant

2021-12-28 13:13:42
  • #2
In the sense of a "side table" for the outdoor facilities, please not, yes, but: in the sense of "America first" (meaning the house grinds first, the flesh children have priority over the metal children) please yes.
 

Hangman

2021-12-28 13:56:24
  • #3
The message is: the house and its residents are more important than the garage & metal clunker.

Sounds trivial, but and I regularly get frustrated with plans that put garages/cars in the foreground, which then somehow have the house/people subordinate to them.

Or in other words: with the approach of initially focusing "only" on your house, you’ve done everything right to start with. And we’ll manage the rest as well :cool:
 

wullewuu

2021-12-28 15:10:54
  • #4


Hello,

thanks for the translation regarding tin children and flesh children... now I get it. At first, I assumed a negative comment behind it, but at least there was support for the house placement and the approach. :-) At least some understanding! :D

Regarding changes to the house position: Simple and quick would only be a lateral shift. Changes in height are not easy to implement. Our building authority was very cool about moving the house; according to them, I don’t even need an architect for that, it’s enough if the changes are sketched in the existing plans and a change request is submitted. I found that very sympathetic and surprisingly uncomplicated. The only important thing is not to get too close to the boundary, but we are moving away anyway :)

Regarding the carport at the front: We definitely do not want that. That would really be the worst for the neighbors (I understand) and it would "take up" the whole yard. In the municipality, you are allowed to put the carport directly at the street, but then you are not allowed to close off a single wall; otherwise it would basically be like a garage.

The entire street slopes downhill (see attachment). At the boundary to the neighbor, the street height is 205.49 m. It may not be higher than that nor does it make sense. If I raise it to that height, I am allowed a maximum of 9 m inward, then it is more than 1 m.

Regarding floor construction: See attachment.

Indeed, the floor slab including screed and insulation is quite high. The finished floor is then another 16 mm :)

At the moment, we favor the variant house 1 or 1.5 m to the north, then the parking space in front of the house, the garbage bins (in a nice form), and the carport deeper flush with the end of the house. As far as I have calculated, that is feasible.

One thing I am unsure about: Can a house be “problemlessly” supported after 2 m with L-shaped stones or the terrain? That should be possible, right? I would simply clad the carport facing the house inside with wood look or something similar so I don’t have to look at the L-shaped stones.

 

11ant

2021-12-28 15:58:01
  • #5
I did not go into detail about the house placement at all, I only qualitatively gave my approval to the approach, the family should clearly stand ahead of the cars in the pecking order: One problem of our time is that the first child nowadays is often born "after the second car," and according to tradition, older rights are granted to the cars. With the emphasis on "easily," in my opinion "or" is the correct answer. In my conviction, L-blocks are generally vastly overrated or the assumptions about the viscosity of building ground still come from times when heavy rain events were rare and you could "rely" on "recovery phases" in between. In the case of just a three-day monsoon interval, you already need rhizome-strong shrubs and the like to hold the pudding. For houses without basements on a slope, letting the terrain shift as well, I consider it rather risky if you rely on only cardboard cutouts for the "stabilization."
 

wullewuu

2021-12-28 16:02:22
  • #6


Yes, the question is who can tell you that for sure. Basically, there should be no pudding under the house anyway, because 100 cm of frost-proof material is piled up regardless. The water therefore drains into the depth one way or another. In case of doubt, that would not be different with a house with a basement on a slope or with any house on a slope. They usually do not slide into the depths either. We simply have the situation with the sloping terrain and placing the house in the hollow was no option for us. At least this way, you have a view :)
 

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