Our floor plan - Your opinion

No, you’re neither writing irritably, nor does it come across that way. Rather the others. Don’t worry about it. I like the floor plan! That it’s so big matches your wishes and is therefore completely legitimate. Whether a door is 20cm further to the left or right... I always think with such advice: I have never entered a house and thought, oh man, they should have moved this door half a meter. P.s. For proper cross-ventilation, more than one window is advantageous

Hello, Bautraum!

Why and how we planned the floor plan exactly like this, the others really cannot know from the beginning. That’s why questions were asked, which I have answered.

When I then receive the following tip,

Warum baut Ihr Euch denn keine zwei Duschen da unten in den Raum, dann könnt Ihr zusammen parallel duschen :cool:

and am then accused of being unobjective in the same post, I can’t really understand that. What’s the point of that? If someone doesn’t like my views, I can live with that. I also allow everyone their opinion. I haven’t personally attacked anyone here.

I hope so.

Best regards, subsb

You wanted advice and ideas. Then some come (no, not from me, from others), and you justify your project. Even if Bautraum thinks you didn’t sound annoyed, others still read it that way. Some words and expressions are simply only used when one feels attacked personally or in regard to their project. And yes, then I can also make exaggerated suggestions – I think they partly fit your statements ;) Ultimately, it’s about individual plans; you really don’t need to discuss a standard. A standard is the starting point, then come details and individuality so that you find yourself. No offense: you will surely feel comfortable in your house since you consider it good. To each their own.

... yes, the floor plan looks clearly and neatly structured at first glance. But that's not what this is about here. This forum is not about simply sugarcoating something for someone, but about sharing experiences that one has already had. And then there are a few users here who are very interested in floor plans, for example me ;), who don’t just look at the first floor plan, don’t plan the first apartment, and have always been interested in living situations etc.

And then comes the second look, and of course that includes things like door positions, window positions, possibilities to furnish a room, and so on. Because often it happens that this is no longer taken precisely enough and later you find yourself in your large or, in many cases, much smaller rooms and realize that you can’t really get started with proper furnishing.

Ideas for further division possibilities etc. are also the aim of this forum. Ideally, the checklist from the pinned thread is filled out, then you can better assess the living situation. It also saves the need to ask the same questions over and over—there is still no site plan, for example ;) .

As I said, I would design the upper floor differently under the aspect that the 18/20-year-old children are about to move out. But I have already written that. And I would definitely determine the space for the kitchen VERY carefully based on an actual kitchen planning ;).

... yes, the floor plan looks clearly and neatly arranged at first glance. But that's not what this is about here. This forum is also not about simply sugarcoating something for someone, but about sharing experiences that one has already had oneself. And then there are a few users here who are very interested in floor plans, for example me ;), who don't just look at the first floor plan or plan the first apartment, and who have always been interested in living situations, etc.

And then comes the second look, and of course things like door positions, window positions, possibilities for furnishing a room, etc. belong to that. Because often it is the case that this is no longer taken precisely enough and later one stands in their large or, in many cases, much smaller rooms and realizes that one really can't even properly start with sensible furnishing.

Ideas for further partitioning options, etc., are also the goal of this forum. Ideally, the checklist from the pinned thread has been filled out, then the living situation can already be better assessed. It also spares having to ask the same questions over and over again – for example, there still isn't a site plan ;) .

As I said, I would design the upper floor differently under the aspect that the 18/20-year-old children are about to move out. But, I've already written that. And I would definitely determine the room for the kitchen VERY carefully based on an actual kitchen plan ;).

I want to make clear that no one here needs to sugarcoat anything for me. Experiences are meant to be passed on, right.

In this regard, I want to say that I am an independent cabinetmaker and believe that I am not totally inexperienced when it comes to space planning. I have to deal with well-planned as well as catastrophically planned rooms, with which I and my employees earn our money. So I can just as well share MY experiences here as anyone else.

I often have to deal with overly optimized floor plans that somehow have ruined the room. And that only because maybe 2 meters less walking are required, or at the end of the day 20 sqm of living space were saved because otherwise it would get more expensive.

That doors and windows are not just nailed into the wall is perfectly clear. Here I completely agree with you. Our plan also hasn’t said the last word yet.

Since I make the furniture myself later, they are already pre-planned to that extent. I already know what goes where and what will be stored there.

So, about the kitchen! Our mutual hobbyhorse, kbt! :)

I plan, build, and install about 20-25 kitchens per year, so I am quite experienced in this regard.

You said the distance from the line to the island is too large for you. That’s okay. Personally, it doesn’t bother me. It’s about 150 cm. I even find that quite appropriate. You see, here our personal feelings and preferences differ. But that doesn’t mean that one of us is more right than the other. It’s just a matter of opinion.

On the other hand, the distance between the tall cabinet block on the left and the island is almost too narrow for me, while for you it might be okay.

In general, I am a fan of tidy, straight structures, which our design certainly reflects. Maybe because I often see really terribly built and convoluted houses. That’s not to say that there aren’t smarter layouts than ours. There certainly are.

I think many by now are also quite fed up with supporting someone who is seeking help/advice/opinion here in the forum, making an effort to provide helpful, sometimes long posts, only to then learn additional important things in the post after next.

Sometimes when reading a thread I think: Most users here usually have almost nothing! to do with their work! Such a topic can turn (s)the entire house upside down for the creator, in their favor! For that, one should definitely invest those few minutes. Normally it should be in one's own interest to provide as much information as possible, that's what the pinned posts are for.

To make it short: For a young family, the floor plan would certainly be one of the better ones here. For a *retirement home*, people here see it differently, rightly so. By the way, you would have been told that as of #2.